There are days I sort of wonder whether the Linux development crews 
haven't been infiltrated by people trying to drive us into the OSX or 
Windows camps.

On 04/10/2017 04:39 PM, Ken Teh wrote:
> On 04/10/2017 10:59 AM, Tom H wrote:
>
>>
>> The lead NM developer's replied to you on fedora-devel@ or
>> fedora-user@ in the past that he and his fellow NM developers have
>> worked hard to add to NM configuration options for complex server
>> setups as well as a cli tool for managing settings. Sadly, NM seems to
>> be a project that can do nothing right in the eyes of its users even
>> though it's left the flakiness of its early years behind.
>>
>>
>
> I'm not sure why I'm jumping into the fray but this paragraph struck 
> me as to exactly why network manager is anathema to so many of us.  
> Even if it is not as flaky as it used to be.
>
> I'm living with it but I can't you the number of times  nmcli and 
> firewall-cmd have made my blood pressure go up.   The latter is even 
> worse with its option style subcommands and is near impossible to 
> remember choices.  Is it  list-all, zone-get-info, zone-list-all?   Wtf?


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