There are days I sort of wonder whether the Linux development crews haven't been infiltrated by people trying to drive us into the OSX or Windows camps.

On 04/10/2017 04:39 PM, Ken Teh wrote:
[log in to unmask]" type="cite">On 04/10/2017 10:59 AM, Tom H wrote:


The lead NM developer's replied to you on fedora-devel@ or
fedora-user@ in the past that he and his fellow NM developers have
worked hard to add to NM configuration options for complex server
setups as well as a cli tool for managing settings. Sadly, NM seems to
be a project that can do nothing right in the eyes of its users even
though it's left the flakiness of its early years behind.



I'm not sure why I'm jumping into the fray but this paragraph struck me as to exactly why network manager is anathema to so many of us.  Even if it is not as flaky as it used to be.

I'm living with it but I can't you the number of times  nmcli and firewall-cmd have made my blood pressure go up.   The latter is even worse with its option style subcommands and is near impossible to remember choices.  Is it  list-all, zone-get-info,  zone-list-all?   Wtf?


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