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Wed, 16 Dec 2020 15:27:58 -0800
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I do not know how many on the SL list have subscribed to the quite 
different Slack list for Rocky EL.  Appended below is a very recent 
post.  Note:

We have about 70 people in total all working through the following tasks:
• Management
• Web and branding
• Infrastructure
• Security and compliance
• Packaging
• Autobuilder research: will be moved to secure automated infrastructure
• Installer development
Now we are putting out a call for action. We want to hear from everyone 
who wants to contribute and be part of Rocky Linux, so we assembled a 
Google form which will allow us to to start organizing the team at large.

End excerpt.

Both Princeton EL (Springdale) and SL are supported by paid 
professionals (as is Oracle EL -- unlike Princeton or Fermilab/CERN, 
Oracle is highly a for-profit operation with the overall goal of 
profiteering by whatever "legal" means possible -- evidently Oracle EL 
is not a viable alternative because of what comes after deployment of 
the "no-fee" version -- the HEP community does not seem to be adopting 
Oracle EL).  I see no real personnel selection criteria or other 
personnel mechanisms in what I am reading about Rocky EL.  Does anyone 
have further insight into this?  An unreliable "bug for bug" port 
(distro) of RHEL 8 (and follow-on major releases) done by volunteers 
(some of whom may be professionals, some of whom may not be) seems risky 
for real production use.

Is the HEP community considering Rocky EL executables as supplied?  Or 
will the HEP community do internal evaluation and testing before 
deployment, keeping a working distro separate from the vagaries of what 
may (NOTE:  *MAY*, not will) be an amateur volunteer distro?

Take care.  Stay safe.

Yasha Karant

gmk   December 16th at 1:55 PM
@channel This last week has been a rollercoaster, starting with the bad 
news from RedHat/CentOS about it no longer being a “community” or 
“enterprise” operating system, to seeing a community grow from nothing 
to something massive. Again, in just a week, here are some of the 
notable accomplishments from this amazing team:• Literally thousands of 
people wanting to help overnight. This is the most engaging and 
motivated community I’ve seen ever over my more than 20 year career with 
open source.
• The first week was very hard because there were more people asking to 
help and be part of this initiative than we could organize. Literally at 
some point, it took me about an hour to go from one side of my Slack 
messages to another. But now, we’ve built a structure and groups to 
properly direct the people who want to help to where they can start working.
We have about 70 people in total all working through the following tasks:
• Management
• Web and branding
• Infrastructure
• Security and compliance
• Packaging
• Autobuilder research: will be moved to secure automated infrastructure
• Installer development
Now we are putting out a call for action. We want to hear from everyone 
who wants to contribute and be part of Rocky Linux, so we assembled a 
Google form which will allow us to to start organizing the team at 
large. Please add yourself to the form 
here:https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_forms_d_e_1FAIpQLSfEXnqD1sNHz9cslkMNOk6krUtDdSCYbxL68TTsn7uGZnoSFQ_viewformThank&d=DwIDaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=sIC8PmIk2u6UC4wZQWqQgQhB2Rcd7iL_Hwc759C6aXk&s=2BgornCkUTyk6kix31RAwLMVh0MGkFRoJ0wG-OkTPEg&e=  
you everyone for your patience while we have been setting up the 
organization itself, and I’m looking forward to hearing from you.

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