This is our issue as well
-Miles
> On Jan 31, 2020, at 07:43, Jean-Paul Chaput <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Hello There,
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> Just to supply another point of view, I'm sticking (i.e. the whole
> network I manage) to SL7 (and CentOS8 afterward) because RHEL is the
> only open source OS that is qualified for big VLSI CAD tools
> (Cadence, Mentor, Synopsys). This is my only reason, but it's a
> mandatory one...
>
> I take this occasion to send a big thank for the SL team and it's
> great jobs all those years.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>> On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 06:25:34PM -0800, Konstantin Olchanski wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 05:57:24PM -0800, Yasha Karant wrote:
>>>
>>> At this point in terms of application support for EL 7 (including SL
>>> 7) from external entities (such as Calibre -- there are others), I
>>> am going soon to be forced to go to another Linux. ...
>>>
>>> Any advice would be appreciated.
>>>
>>
>> We are looking at Ubuntu -
>>
>> - direction is very stable, each next release is "the same as the previous release",
>> no surprises, no strange changes, no confusion.
>> - trivial upgrade path from version N to version N+1. (works as well as MacOS).
>> - easy to google problems and solutions
>> - works well on laptops (Red Hat was always behind on Wifi and other important drivers)
>> - commonality with Raspberry Pi and other SoC systems (everything is Debian or Ubuntu based, nothing is Red Hat based).
>> - many hardware vendors now supply Ubuntu and Debian centric drivers and support
>>
>> Now that both Ubuntu and Red Hat use systemd, NetworkManager & co management
>> of both has become very similar.
>>
>> Only big remaining difference is the package manager - apt vs rpm/yum, but even
>> here Red Hat have muddied the waters by switching to dnf and a new package format
>> (new checksum algorythms).
>>
>> Since building rpm packages was always a major pain, I am not sure I want to figure
>> it all out again with CentOS/EL-8 just to find out that I cannot (or I can?) build
>> RPM packages that work on all three - el6, el7 and el8. Might as well cut out
>> the middleman and use "git pull; make install" to install and manage the 2-3-4 scripts
>> that I manage with RPM packages right now.
>>
>> I have been saying the above to everybody for the last 6 months and not a single
>> person so far had answered with "let's stick with Red Hat" or "let's stick with Red Hat
>> because of important reason X".
>>
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>> Konstantin Olchanski
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