This is our issue as well -Miles > On Jan 31, 2020, at 07:43, Jean-Paul Chaput <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Caution: EXTERNAL email > > Hello There, > > > Just to supply another point of view, I'm sticking (i.e. the whole > network I manage) to SL7 (and CentOS8 afterward) because RHEL is the > only open source OS that is qualified for big VLSI CAD tools > (Cadence, Mentor, Synopsys). This is my only reason, but it's a > mandatory one... > > I take this occasion to send a big thank for the SL team and it's > great jobs all those years. > > > Best regards, > >> On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 06:25:34PM -0800, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: >>> On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 05:57:24PM -0800, Yasha Karant wrote: >>> >>> At this point in terms of application support for EL 7 (including SL >>> 7) from external entities (such as Calibre -- there are others), I >>> am going soon to be forced to go to another Linux. ... >>> >>> Any advice would be appreciated. >>> >> >> We are looking at Ubuntu - >> >> - direction is very stable, each next release is "the same as the previous release", >> no surprises, no strange changes, no confusion. >> - trivial upgrade path from version N to version N+1. (works as well as MacOS). >> - easy to google problems and solutions >> - works well on laptops (Red Hat was always behind on Wifi and other important drivers) >> - commonality with Raspberry Pi and other SoC systems (everything is Debian or Ubuntu based, nothing is Red Hat based). >> - many hardware vendors now supply Ubuntu and Debian centric drivers and support >> >> Now that both Ubuntu and Red Hat use systemd, NetworkManager & co management >> of both has become very similar. >> >> Only big remaining difference is the package manager - apt vs rpm/yum, but even >> here Red Hat have muddied the waters by switching to dnf and a new package format >> (new checksum algorythms). >> >> Since building rpm packages was always a major pain, I am not sure I want to figure >> it all out again with CentOS/EL-8 just to find out that I cannot (or I can?) build >> RPM packages that work on all three - el6, el7 and el8. Might as well cut out >> the middleman and use "git pull; make install" to install and manage the 2-3-4 scripts >> that I manage with RPM packages right now. >> >> I have been saying the above to everybody for the last 6 months and not a single >> person so far had answered with "let's stick with Red Hat" or "let's stick with Red Hat >> because of important reason X". >> >> -- >> Konstantin Olchanski >> Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! >> Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca >> Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada > > -- > .-. J e a n - P a u l C h a p u t / Administrateur Systeme > /v\ [log in to unmask] > /(___)\ work: (33) 01.44.27.53.99 > ^^ ^^ cell: 06.66.25.35.55 home: 01.47.46.01.31 > > U P M C Universite Pierre & Marie Curie > L I P 6 Laboratoire d'Informatique de Paris VI > S o C System On Chip