On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Tom H <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> NM in F-17/F-18 understands ifcfg files defining bonds, bridges, vlans.
>>
>> I've installed an X-less F-18 and uninstalled NM without a hitch so
>> it's still uninstallable (but I didn't try to do so with GNOME or
>> another DE installed), so it *SHOULD* still be uninstallable in EL-7.
>> Since you're so enamored with NM, I look forward to your reaction to
>> firewalld when you move to EL-7. :)
>
> Since F-18 is only in beta, not released yet, I'll reserve judgment
> until it's actually published. So far, from F-17, I'm afraid the
> switch to SL 7 is going to pretty painful. The switch to "systemd"
> instead of "initscripts", and the switch from "/bin" and "/sbin" to
> "/usr/bin" and "/usr/sbin" for numerous core utilities are going to
> create a serious burden for people doing cross-platform work. Revising
> the network component layout is going to be.... even more delightful,
>
> The need for more sophisticated tools and discard of some of the
> complex old hackery is understandable, it's just going to be hard.

The main/only reason that F-18 hasn't been released yet is the
new-look installer so we can be quite sure that the NM behavior won't
change by the time that F-18's published.

Although the move to "/usr" and systemd are big "plumbing" changes, I
suspect that the redesigned installer and gnome-shell will have a
bigger impact on users. systemd's looking quite good; F-18'll be the
fourth Fedora release with systemd by default.

Oracle beat Fedora to the move to "/usr" with Solaris 11 so if you're
working cross-platform, SL-7 will be the second "exception" when it's
released...

If I'm understanding you correctly, you're calling the scripts in
"/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/" hackery and I agree. But it's good
hackery. As a multi-distro user, I wish that all distributions used
the same hackery...