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On Oct 20, 2009, at 05:08, William R. Somsky wrote:

> I guess I'll put my two cents in...
>
> Full disclaimer: I made entry #10, as well as the previous logo
> from Scientific Linux V4.

Thanks. The SL4 logo is great!

Would it be possible to recreate the SL4 logo, with just a modified  
nucleus (presumably C14 like all the other "atom like" ones, since C12  
is hard to do due to lack of symmetries, although a radioactive  
isotope might constitute a potential PR hazard) and an additional  
electron on each of the inner orbits? That would be my favorite SL6  
logo!

I agree with much of what you say below. And I actually like #10 - but  
I just can't get used to seeing four electrons on the same orbit ;-)

Cheers,
	Stephan

> Additionally, my background is that of a
> theoretical/computational particle physicist.
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 02:32:50PM +0100, Anatoly Solomin wrote:
>> I beg authors to forgive me not being enthusiastic about their  
>> projects,
>> but from the point of view of a particle physicist, all "atomic"  
>> logos
>> do not attach impression of professionalism to the Scientific  
>> Linux, if
>> you know what I mean. And I agree, that it is a misleading message  
>> as if
>> it were only for particle-physics related areas.
>
> I'm afraid I don't get your meaning regarding "professionalism",
> but let's discuss an "atom" as the icon/logo for Scientific Linux:
>
> Aside from the historical precedence of a stylized atom being the logo
> for Scientific Linux, the "atom" is firmly linked in the public mind
> with "science".  The only other iconic symbols I can think of right  
> off
> that trigger the thought "science" are a "test tube" and an  
> "erlenmeyer
> flask" -- possibly a "cell", though that takes a further level of  
> graphical
> detail to represent clearly.  Perhaps others can add to this list.   
> Even
> then, each has a definite connection with a specific field of science,
> so trying to find something representing science in general seems  
> futile.
> (How does one draw a "scientific method"?)
>
> The idea of using a Feynmann diagram in Entry #12 is interesting,  
> but I'm
> afraid that such diagrams are rather obscure outside of particle  
> physics.
> Furthermore, for those who _do_ recognize them, Entry 12 is a bit  
> jarring,
> as it is unfortunately not a well-formed diagram.  Besides, if one is
> going to use a Feynmann diagram to represent a distribution of linux,
> it would seem that the appropriate one would be the "penguin" diagram:
> http://www.physorg.com/news79793376.html :-) (Yes, the penguin diagram
> is a serious diagram from particle physics.)  But I digress...
>
> As far as "atom" logos go, there are some interesting renditions in  
> the
> entries, but to me they all seem "busy".  Even my own entry, #10,  
> seems
> like a bit much.  It may be time to drop trying to have the atomic  
> number
> of the logo match the release number of the distribution.  To  
> paraphrase
> the (supposed) comment of the King of Castile on the Ptolemaic system
> of epicycles, I would "suggest something simpler", especially if we're
> looking for an "iconic" logo.  Perhaps something "Helium-like".
>
> A side note on Entry #9: although I don't think this is right for the
> "official" logo for Scientific Linux, I do like it as an "associated"
> image.  Though I would possibly suggest eliminating the "electron"
> above his head.
>
> In regards to new "non-atom" logos, Entry #1 is simple, clean and has
> its points, but somehow it seems naggingly familiar.  I can't identify
> it for certain, but somehow it feels like it's too close to some other
> logo/image that I've seen before.  Perhaps that's just my imagination?
> Perhaps not?
>
> Anyway, my pair of pennies.  Take it for what it's worth.
>
> - WRSomsky
>
> -- 
> William R. Somsky                                 [log in to unmask]
> Physicist, Baritone, Guitarist        http://www.speakeasy.org/~gramarye

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