On Oct 20, 2009, at 05:08, William R. Somsky wrote: > I guess I'll put my two cents in... > > Full disclaimer: I made entry #10, as well as the previous logo > from Scientific Linux V4. Thanks. The SL4 logo is great! Would it be possible to recreate the SL4 logo, with just a modified nucleus (presumably C14 like all the other "atom like" ones, since C12 is hard to do due to lack of symmetries, although a radioactive isotope might constitute a potential PR hazard) and an additional electron on each of the inner orbits? That would be my favorite SL6 logo! I agree with much of what you say below. And I actually like #10 - but I just can't get used to seeing four electrons on the same orbit ;-) Cheers, Stephan > Additionally, my background is that of a > theoretical/computational particle physicist. > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 02:32:50PM +0100, Anatoly Solomin wrote: >> I beg authors to forgive me not being enthusiastic about their >> projects, >> but from the point of view of a particle physicist, all "atomic" >> logos >> do not attach impression of professionalism to the Scientific >> Linux, if >> you know what I mean. And I agree, that it is a misleading message >> as if >> it were only for particle-physics related areas. > > I'm afraid I don't get your meaning regarding "professionalism", > but let's discuss an "atom" as the icon/logo for Scientific Linux: > > Aside from the historical precedence of a stylized atom being the logo > for Scientific Linux, the "atom" is firmly linked in the public mind > with "science". The only other iconic symbols I can think of right > off > that trigger the thought "science" are a "test tube" and an > "erlenmeyer > flask" -- possibly a "cell", though that takes a further level of > graphical > detail to represent clearly. Perhaps others can add to this list. > Even > then, each has a definite connection with a specific field of science, > so trying to find something representing science in general seems > futile. > (How does one draw a "scientific method"?) > > The idea of using a Feynmann diagram in Entry #12 is interesting, > but I'm > afraid that such diagrams are rather obscure outside of particle > physics. > Furthermore, for those who _do_ recognize them, Entry 12 is a bit > jarring, > as it is unfortunately not a well-formed diagram. Besides, if one is > going to use a Feynmann diagram to represent a distribution of linux, > it would seem that the appropriate one would be the "penguin" diagram: > http://www.physorg.com/news79793376.html :-) (Yes, the penguin diagram > is a serious diagram from particle physics.) But I digress... > > As far as "atom" logos go, there are some interesting renditions in > the > entries, but to me they all seem "busy". Even my own entry, #10, > seems > like a bit much. It may be time to drop trying to have the atomic > number > of the logo match the release number of the distribution. To > paraphrase > the (supposed) comment of the King of Castile on the Ptolemaic system > of epicycles, I would "suggest something simpler", especially if we're > looking for an "iconic" logo. Perhaps something "Helium-like". > > A side note on Entry #9: although I don't think this is right for the > "official" logo for Scientific Linux, I do like it as an "associated" > image. Though I would possibly suggest eliminating the "electron" > above his head. > > In regards to new "non-atom" logos, Entry #1 is simple, clean and has > its points, but somehow it seems naggingly familiar. I can't identify > it for certain, but somehow it feels like it's too close to some other > logo/image that I've seen before. Perhaps that's just my imagination? > Perhaps not? > > Anyway, my pair of pennies. Take it for what it's worth. > > - WRSomsky > > -- > William R. Somsky [log in to unmask] > Physicist, Baritone, Guitarist http://www.speakeasy.org/~gramarye -- Stephan Wiesand DESY - DV - Platanenallee 6 15738 Zeuthen, Germany