On 04/30/2008 04:59 PM, Troy Dawson wrote:
> Hi All,
> We will once again be having a Plenary (a discussion/forum) at Hepix.  I 
> am gathering a list of things people want to discuss.
> 
> What do people want to discuss?

in addition to the "SL4 end-of-life"-issue and the (already now) 
interesting "Ubuntu-creep" discussion, perhaps we could have something 
on SL5 rollout at labs. I've seen Fermi's point of view ("up to our 
users"), and I guess most labs have SL5 wherever they can get away with 
this, but CERN will finally also be looking at 5, which means 
LCG+experiment software should eventually be available as well, and 
hence I hope that Grid computing capacity will move.. and as usual, this 
will be a push&pull (lure 'em with free capacity on 5, reduce capacity 
on 4 and threaten with deadlines). Some idea where the rest of the world 
is in this would be nice.


Another issue of interest to at least me would be opinions on hardware 
availability -  we are pretty  much unable to procure laptops with 
RH/SL/SLC4, and desktops are difficult as well on 4. 5 will bring 
temporary  relief, but to me it looks like laptops are pretty much 
unsuitable for an "enterprise" level of stability. Other opinions gladly 
taken, the above Ubuntu creep and the already-mentioned MacOS stampede 
are at least taking pressure out of this..

Last but keast (and already mentioned a year ago), CERN occasionally 
gets accused of customizing SLC too much (in the sense that software 
developed on SLC {sh|w}ould {need to} be re-certified for other RH/SL 
flavours. While I am not aware of any concrete example for this, it 
would be nice to get both the other labs' opinion on CERN's behaviour, 
and perhaps examples of similar criticism vs other SL* variants.

Regards & see you on Monday.
Jan