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> Oh, the question mark behind gv, ncurses4 and readline41 was whether 
> we need them in the distribution or not.  I was told in SL4 that 
> several experiments needed them, and I was just wondering if that was 
> still the case.  Basically just wanted to ask if anybody is still 
> using these packages.

ncurses4 is needed for some astronomy software;
IRAF (http://iraf.noao.edu/) & ESO scisoft (http://www.eso.org/scisoft).

As an alternate source, I think atrpms keeps ncurses4 packages for
fedora.

-- 
Chris Hunter
Systems Programmer
Department of Astronomy, Yale University
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Quoting Troy Dawson <[log in to unmask]>:

> Stephan Wiesand wrote:
>> Hi Troy,
>>
>> On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Troy Dawson wrote:
>>
>>> Howdy,
>>> As Ioannis has already said RHEL 5 was released.
>>>
>>> It was released on the birhtday of Albert Einstein, *and*, it was 
>>> released at
>>> the time of pi.  3-14 1:59:26  (OK, so I can't verify the seconds, 
>>> let's just
>>> pretend they got it)
>>> I think that is a very fitting release to begin to compile and turn into
>>> Scientific Linux.
>>
>> Right.
>>
>>> So the real work of building Scientific Linux 5 has begun.
>>
>> Great.
>>
>>> Step 1 is to recompile all of the source rpm's from RedHat, on a machine
>>> running the alpha release of S.L.5.
>>> Step 2 is to reinstall that machine with these new rpm's, and then 
>>> recompile
>>> all the source rpm's from RedHat ... again.
>>> This ensures the batter is light and frothy.
>>
>> Would anyone care to explain that to a european? Please reply off 
>> list, I'll post a summary...
>>
>>> Wait, no, it makes sure that the binary rpm's have been compiled with the
>>> correct libraries.
>>>
>>> After step 1 and step 2 are done, we will put all the binaries into a
>>> distribution and that will be our first beta release.  Then we will 
>>> shake out
>>> the bugs, tweek, and fine tune things.
>>>
>>> What is the timeframe:
>>> This is just a educated guess.  This is just to answer the question before
>>> people ask it.  In the words of the upstream vendor, "we will 
>>> release it when
>>> it's ready."
>>> First Beta - two weeks, so sometime around March 30
>>> Final Release - anywhere from 1 month to 2 months.  If everything works
>>> perfect, let's say April 16.  But I'd love to have it out no later than May
>>> 14.
>>
>> So, when are you going to release it? ;-)
>>
>>> The Whiteboard:
>>> The whiteboard is sortof a copy of the whiteboard in my office.  I 
>>> will try to
>>> keep it updated so you can see what's going on.  It's web location is at
>>>
>>> https://www.scientificlinux.org/distributions/rolling.whiteboard
>>
>> Since it's on that whiteboard: I've put up my latest OpenAFS SRPM here:
>>
>>    
>> http://www-zeuthen.desy.de/~wiesand/SL5/openafs.SLx-1.4.3-0.rc3.41.src.rpm
>>
>> Changes are really becoming incremental at this stage. I keep 
>> tracking the CVS, the mailing lists, and the bug tracker and put in 
>> the patches I think I fully understand and that clearly fix bugs. 
>> There's one such patch in rc3 that was not in our rc2 build, and one 
>> more in this package that was not in rc3. Both bugs seem to strike 
>> under rather special circumstances only, but they do exist. While 
>> what's in the current alpha is certainly at least of alpha quality, 
>> and hopefully much better, please use the above SRPM for SL5 beta - 
>> unless I come up with something even better before ;-)
>>
>> I verified that it builds and works on EL5 as released yesterday, at 
>> least with the el5xen kernel running in dom0 on x86_64 - the 
>> remaining configurations still have to be tested asap, but I don't 
>> expect any problems.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> 	Stephan
>>
>> PS Since the whiteboard has a questionmark behind gv: I got it to build
>>    on EL5. Want the SRPM?
>>
>
> Oh, the question mark behind gv, ncurses4 and readline41 was whether 
> we need them in the distribution or not.  I was told in SL4 that 
> several experiments needed them, and I was just wondering if that was 
> still the case.  Basically just wanted to ask if anybody is still 
> using these packages.
> Since you already had gv recompiled for SL5 alpha, I am supposing 
> that you use it, so we should keep it in.
> Is youre src rpm for gv newer than the one in SL4?  (gv-3.5.8-29.src.rpm)
>
> Troy
> -- 
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