Hi Glenn, I find it unusual that HEP will find an AlmaLinux list of much use in many circumstances. Internal to CERN, and perhaps Fermilab and/or the various signatories to which HEP collaborations are getting AlmaLinux from CERN/Fermilab (along with any experiment/data analysis specific software that is required to be present at all collaboration sites), will there be additional INTERNAL list/s and/or support? I fully understand that these sources would only be available to CERN/Fermilab/Collaboration-signatories -- but the existence thereof is important for those of us who do NOT have access to such resources. I also fully understand that this is not the sort of "cradle-to-grave" support provided under vendor contract to many for-profit enterprises as HEP has qualified professional computer scientists and engineers as well as physicists who are well versed on systems internals. Just curious. Kind regards, Yasha On 12/7/22 13:01, Glenn Cooper wrote: > Hi Yasha, > >> Will CERN/Fermilab provide the same level of support to AlmaLinux that currently is provided for Scientific Linux? > > AlmaLinux has its own support channels, so those are the way to go if you choose Alma. > >> Will this list transition into an AlmaLinux list? > > There are no plans for that. We'll continue to support Scientific Linux, and this list, until the end of upstream support in 2024. > >> Very few of these have the general professionalism that was present on the SL list. > > Thanks to all for the helpful answers and friendly attitude! > > Yours, > Glenn > > > On 12/7/22, 2:11 PM, "[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Yasha Karant" <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> on behalf of [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > > > Will CERN/Fermilab provide the same level of support to AlmaLinux that > currently is provided for Scientific Linux? Will this list transition > into an AlmaLinux list? > > > I have looked at the non-vendor lists for non-vendor ports of production > RHEL current (CentOS basically is a vendor port). Very few of these > have the general professionalism that was present on the SL list. I > personally have transitioned to Ubuntu LTS current production; one thing > I sorely miss is straightforward answers that the SL list provided. > However, unlike RHEL, Ubuntu LTS does support a larger selection of > recent laptop hardware platforms and allow for the most recent > production versions of particular end-user applications. Nonetheless, > there are situations in which a RHEL current tested production clone > would be of use > > > On 12/7/22 11:53, Glenn Cooper wrote: >> CERN and Fermilab jointly plan to provide AlmaLinux as the standard >> distribution for experiments at our facilities, reflecting recent >> experience and discussions with experiments and other stakeholders. >> AlmaLinux has recently been gaining traction among the community due to >> its long life cycle for each major version, extended architecture >> support, rapid release cycle, upstream community contributions, and >> support for security advisory metadata. In testing, it has demonstrated >> to be perfectly compatible with the other rebuilds and Red Hat >> Enterprise Linux. >> >> CERN and, to a lesser extent, Fermilab, will also use Red Hat Enterprise >> Linux (RHEL) for some services and applications within the respective >> laboratories. Scientific Linux 7, at Fermilab, and CERN CentOS 7, at >> CERN, will continue to be supported for their remaining life, until June >> 2024. >> > > >