My understanding is that only SuSE, Red Hat, and Ubuntu produce open systems ("free to port" with attribution and removal of copyrighted logo intellectual property) "enterprise" distros -- and all of these in current production release use SystemD, etc., baggage. Was Torvalds behind SystemD, etc.? Just curious. On 1/22/21 3:55 PM, Mark Rousell wrote: > On 22/01/2021 16:30, Larry Linder wrote: >> My only wish is that the SL community start a New Linux based on SL 6.9 >> and erase all the needless junk added to SL 7.5. Mainly dump the >> systemctl crap. If only expands the number of characters I need to >> type to get it done and contributes nothing to operational efficiency - >> more bloat ware. > > This is in Debian too. > > If you want a Debian without SystemD then check out Devuan. >