On 11/21/2017 05:30 AM, R P Herrold wrote: > On Tue, 21 Nov 2017, ToddAndMargo wrote: > >>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1142369 > ... >> Plus, my version of sane-backends, does not have systemd >> support compiled in. > > not that it is compiled in at all, but rather, as the bug > showed how to check, just missing systemd support config files I got that from https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1142369#c21 "particularly, I do not see explicit systemd support there $ rpm -ql sane-backends | grep syst $" Did the Red Hat engineer make a mistake? Oh, and it is purposefully NOT "explicitly" compiled in either, not just a missing config file: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1515762#c2 "Nowadays when you use scanner, scanning program communicate with scanner directly, not through daemon. The saned daemon is used usually for remote scanning (like remote client accesses server, where scanning device is connected), which is not usual." He doesn't know about PDF Studio, which is an AWESOME piece of PDF editing software. As soon as I get updated to the latest version, I will give him the link to the unlimited trial so he can play around with it. > and you were asked to file a bug against the appropriate > component, rather than hi-jacking a bug on a completely > different issue in systemd What makes you think I did not? 2017-11-21 05:44 EST by Todd https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1515762 (RHEL) 2017-11-11 21:41 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1512252 (Fedora) When Red Hat engineers ask me to do something, I am reallyconscientious on doing it. They are a paid service and I am not paying them, so when they "volunteer" to help me, I bend over backwards to hang on their every word and request. > and you have still not learned to trim > > a while ago you remarked: > >> My problem is that I have been trying to pound a square peg >> into a round hole. RHEL is a really poor choice for a system >> that has a lot of innovation going on on it. > > Perhaps you should consider moving to Fedora, as they are > suited to your needs That is definitely on the table. The stress involved in trying to maintain an OS that is purposefully minimally maintained has overwhelmed me. I need two solid days (of lost billing and neglecting my family responsibilities) to port over. It is not small undertaking -- financially, technically, neglected family. Maybe in March, when I have the stinkin' federal taxes finished. Note that the issue with saned and systemctl cuts across both RHEL and Clones and Fedora. It is far more likely to be fixed in Fedora, then I can ask that it be ported into RHEL, especially since I do believe it is the same guy supporting both. > ** Please ** conform to FOSS norms here --- I have seriously > considered just devnulling your content, as you use this venue > far beyond its scope The purpose of my follow up post was to let everyone know what my mistake was and that I had that part under control. I always do followups to help others with the same issues and to stop others from helping me when I have figured things out. Not doing so, I consider "rude". I have customer that call for appointments all the time that do not call me back when I give them dates and times. It is because they have figured it out on their own and have no further need of me. IT IS RUDE AS ALL HELL to leave me hanging with spots for their appointments and not cancelling so I can give their spots away to others. Especially when they call saying it is an "emergency" and I am trying to bend over backward to accommodate them. I consider not following up to be in the same light. > -- Russ herrold > I have no idea what you mean by "FOSS norms". If you find my posting to be offensive, you should seriously consider going through with your threat and kill filing me. Getting angry over what I post doesn't help either of us. -T