On 08/25/2015 03:48 AM, David Sommerseth wrote: > On 24/08/15 18:59, ToddAndMargo wrote: >> >> Be careful. The "Cloud" is marketing "weasel speak" for >> "client / server" with a really, really crappy, unreliable >> connection between the two. > > Yes, some abuse "cloud" for what you describe. But the cloud is > actually far more than just a service available via the Internet. > > Cloud does more often refer to a platform, where virtualization often > plays a crucial role. But where you can provide services, such as PaaS > and IaaS, in a transparent way to your users/customers. And then you > have tools for managing this platform, such as RHEV, > CloudForms/ManageIQ, oVirt, OpenStack, etc, etc. And it is still accessed through a inherently crappy, unreliable connection. > >> And "Cloud" backup makes my skin crawl. You have to take >> everything for granted that the vendor purports, as in is >> your data really encrypted and safe from prying eyes, >> employees or otherwise, not to mention and what happens >> to your data when they "fly-by-night". And when do your >> backups stop actually backing up? I have had a former >> customer burned by this really badly. > > As with any Internet provided service, you need to pay attention to the > fine print and the hidden details. You need to consider if and how much > you trust their service, and further consider to implement additional > security layers before using their service. IMO, blindly trusting that > an Internet service is safe is mostly stupid. > > In my setup, I have an internal backup service which encrypts all backup > data before it is saved to a local disk. And then I use CrashPlan to > backup that encrypted data. So even if CrashPlan fails on the > encryption provided by their service, the data is still encrypted. And > if everything works as announced, it is at least "double encrypted". As > always, security is best served in layers. True. I call it "fences". If the bad guys hop over one fence, there is another one in his way. These guys are inherantly lazy and go after the low hanging fruit. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Computers are like air conditioners. They malfunction when you open windows ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~