On 08/24/2015 06:17 AM, John Rowe wrote: >> 1) I have to have my backup sata drives removed to boot. >> SL7 tries to mount them as my 9750-4I raid controller >> and freezes up. After booting up I can insert the >> eSata drive(s). And do you think I would remember? >> In other words. I have top boot up twice. > > I would strongly suggest that a "backup" drive permanently connected to > the computer is not a backup at all. In no particular order it leaves > you vulnerable to: > > Accidental deletion > Malicious deletion/encryption > Fire > Theft > > I know that sometimes this is much easier to point out than to fix (I > sense the word "cloud" appearing..) > > John > Hi John, You missed the "e" in the eSata. Stands for "external" or "removable". The way I work it is to have several eSata drives in rotation, typically 5 to 14 drives and typically stored in a firesafe. The latest is stored off site. And they are typically LUKS encrypted. First thing in the morning, the drives are rotated and last night's drive goes to someone's car. The drives are not mounted, except during backup. They do not even appear in fstab. On my system, I also do not mount my eSata drives at boot or have them in fstab (I have tried it both ways to see if there is a pattern, there is not). The problem, which I will be reporting to Red Hat sometime today, will affect any system that uses a RAID controller and additional Sata drives for whatever reason -- additional storage, for instance. Be careful. The "Cloud" is marketing "weasel speak" for "client / server" with a really, really crappy, unreliable connection between the two. And "Cloud" backup makes my skin crawl. You have to take everything for granted that the vendor purports, as in is your data really encrypted and safe from prying eyes, employees or otherwise, not to mention and what happens to your data when they "fly-by-night". And when do your backups stop actually backing up? I have had a former customer burned by this really badly. In my opinion, everything that works well in the "Cloud", eMail for instance, has pretty much already been done. As far as I can tell, software vendors are pushing for it because it gives them a better more consistent revenue stream (no worries about a customer not renewing their tech support contract). Most of the time it is not a better deal than hosting your own local server. Everyone that loves wine knows that you can buy a whole bottle of wine to consume at your home for the price of a glass at a restaurant. The "Cloud" is not so much about taking care of the customer as it is taking care of the vendor. I have three customers using Point of Sale software. The vendors are trying to push them into the "Cloud". So far my customers laugh at them. The Internet is down on a weekly basis around these parts and some places several time a day. Good luck trying to sell a merchandise to a customer when you have to wait an hour to several days for your Internet connection to come back up. Sort of makes you long for the days of a simple cash register. My two cents. -T