For SL6 we include the following 'tweak' rpms: SL_desktop_tweaks SL_enable_serialconsole-1152 SL_enable_serialconsole-192 SL_enable_serialconsole-384 SL_enable_serialconsole SL_enable_serialconsole-96 SL_no_colorls SL_password_for_singleuser The 'SL_desktop_tweaks' added a terminal to the menu bar, in SL7 this is already done by upstream. The 'SL_password_for_singleuser' required the root password for single user mode, in SL7 this is already done by upstream. This leaves 'SL_enable_serialconsole' and 'SL_no_colorls'. With SL7 the terminal seems to be very good a detecting support for the ASCII controls which set the colors. Is this still something the community wants? With SL7 the serial consoles are very easy to setup. Simply add: GRUB_SERIAL_COMMAND='serial --speed=9600 --unit=0' GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT="$GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT serial" GRUB_TERMINAL_INPUT="$GRUB_TERMINAL_INPUT serial" GRUB_TERMINAL="$GRUB_TERMINAL serial" GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="$GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX console=tty0 console=/dev/ttyS0,9600" to /etc/sysconfig/grub Anaconda (the installer) does this for you automatically if the serial options are set with kickstart. What are the various feelings here? Make these rpms, don't make them? Pat -- Pat Riehecky Scientific Linux developer http://www.scientificlinux.org/