I don't suppose anyone has figured out the changes to sound in the new 5.x kernel ? We have many desktops with soundchis (intel HDA) but no external speakers. With 2.6.18-128.xx and below kernels these machines happy beeped on demand (via a small speaker on themotherboard). Now that we have updated to kernel-2.6.18-164.6.1.el5 the beep comes through the soundcard, so we don't hear anything. Some users have provided themselves with headphones and they do hear a loud unpleasaant squawk of a beep. I can find lots of suggestions (remove the pcspkr kernel module) for getting rid of this sqawk, but my users still want to hear the beep even without speakers on the sound card. Any ideas ? (Actully my woes are even worse - I have allegedly identical machines and some not not all have lost sound through the front headphone socket, but still have sound though the rear line out socket.) Thanks, -- Dr. Andrew C. Aitchison Computer Officer, DPMMS, Cambridge [log in to unmask] http://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~werdna