Kinzel, David wrote: > Are you sure cups has started properly in the first place? cups has never started. > Every now and then you might hit this bug: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=103401 which is what the unable > to bind messages may point towards. will check link today. please see my reply to troy for reason of delay and other problems. thanks for reply. -- peace out. tc,hago. g . **** in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it. to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look* at it. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ ****