John, On 5.01.08, John Summerfield wrote: > Steve White wrote: > >Paul, > > >>The CUPS print system wants you to use its configuration through the > >>web browser at port 631. Assuming you have the httpd package > >>installed, what happens ifyou browse > >> > >>http://localhost:631 > >> > >>The IPP protocol can be specified there as one of the options on the > >>second page. > >> > >>The CUPS config through the web browser is the preferred method of > >>configuration, and the gnome or kde GUI thingies are not. > >> > >This only works if CUPS is running on the local system. > >Cups is not running on my machine; I don't know why it should be. > > What only works if CUPS is running on the local system. The CUPS config through the web browser works only if CUPS is running on the local system. > >CUPS is not running on my colleague's identical system, who set it up with > >KDE "effortlessly" to use the print server to print to networked printers. > > KDE's control centre allows the selection of a printer server on a > remote host, it's a fairly simple thing to do. > > That's not a useful thing to do on a laptop though, if you commonly use > more than one network. It makes sense for an office workstation, like my machine and my colleagues machine. > >As I said, I did try setting up CUPS on my system, but after a couple > >of days of fiddling and reading web pages, never saw it print anything. > > > >The question is, how to configure a system (using the Gnome GUI) to > >use a remote print server and networked printers. > > > Well, AFAIK CUPS is installed on all my Linux systems that run one of these: > Fedora 8 > Fedora Core 5 (two laptops) > OpenSUSE 10.2 (one laptop) > WBEL4 (A RHEL4 clone) > CentOS4 > Scientific Linux 5 > Various Ubuntu > I checked some of my other colleague's systems. Some run CUPS, some don't. All print to the same printer. > and additionally, on my Apple Powerbook G4 which is running Mac OS X Tiger. > > Did you know that CUPS is a product of Apple? I don't think Apple > acquired it for its line of servers. > > I think your desktops will work a lot better if you install CUPS. My > laptops have no difficulty finding the printers on the LANs I use, > without being told where to look. In fact, Linux does this better than > Mac OS X does. CUPS has the ability to broadcast its services, to poll > CUPS servers you know about that don't broadcast or that broadcast > doesn't reach. Once, I configured _one_ of my systems to poll the > printer server at work (through my VPN) and all the printers appeared on > all my local computers. > > CUPS does what you are missing. > I think you missed my point. I have managed to print without CUPS, only by circumventing the Gnome desktop. My colleague can configure his SL5 workstation to print without CUPS, using KDE. I gather from this discussion that the SL5 distro Gnome desktop does not provide a way to configure the system to print directly to a networked printer *without CUPS*, although the KDE desktop does. Now, as I said, I was unable to get my system to print using CUPS. But that is a subject for a different thread. Cheers, again! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Steve White +49(331)7499-202 Computer Programmierer Zi. 35 Bg. 20 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Astrophysikalisches Institut Potsdam (AIP) An der Sternwarte 16, D-14482 Potsdam Vorstand: Prof. Dr. Matthias Steinmetz, Peter A. Stolz Stiftung privaten Rechts, Stiftungsverzeichnis Brandenburg: III/7-71-026 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -