Older versions of SL before SL5 had a button in the logout popup for "Save current setup". That button is missing from gnome 2.16.1 which comes with SL5. If you want to start up with a particular collection of gnome-aware applications in your workspaces, you can set them all up and then run the text command "gnome-session-save". That will save a snapshot of the session at that instant, and the next time you log in under gnome the windows will be restored. I normally start up with a 2x7 array of workspaces set up in workspace switcher, with the workspaces containing 12 gnome-terminals of misc. sizes. The menu item "System->Preferences->More Preferences->Sessions" does not seem to work reliably, and the saved session often gets messed up if you restart a frozen display with "control-alt-backspace". Perhaps I just don't understand how Sessions are supposed to be saved; the documentation for gnome was last updated at version 2.14 . But another frustration is resolved. This is taking an incredibly long time, but I am slowly getting SL5 set up the way I like it. Next I will copy the setup (and the knowledge) to many machines, and leave them to slowly updating semi-forever. In another three or four years, I get to play "where did it go?" again. Keith -- Keith Lofstrom [log in to unmask] Voice (503)-520-1993 KLIC --- Keith Lofstrom Integrated Circuits --- "Your Ideas in Silicon" Design Contracting in Bipolar and CMOS - Analog, Digital, and Scan ICs