Hi, This is my last e-mail for the day. I'm going to go home and think, but here are some thoughts. First - I think that for at least S.L. 5.0 we should do it completely independent of CentOS. That is for both CentOS's and SL's good. RHEL5 has so many different changes in the way they are doing things, that SL and CentOS are probably going to do very different things. I think this is a good thing, so that we can look at both ways of making a distribution, and determining which, if any, is best. So, I'm planning on forging ahead with S.L. 5.0 on our own, no matter what we decide for S.L. 5.1. Cons: CentOS does *not* have an open development cycle. There are no beta's. For the average user, it just comes. Troy -- __________________________________________________ Troy Dawson [log in to unmask] (630)840-6468 Fermilab ComputingDivision/LCSI/CSI DSS Group __________________________________________________