Hi Alex, There are changes here that pretty much have to have been done by hand or by a script. Was this done by a kickstart script? Are you the only admin that has root to this box? So, to turn yum on do /sbin/chkconfig --add yum /sbin/chkconfig --list yum and if it doesn't show as 'on' for the various run levels do /sbin/chkconfig --level 2345 yum on yum-conf-4x cannot be installed during the install, it has to have been installed afterwords ... unless it is done during a kickstart. I have double checked, and it too has the correct line if [ $utime -ge 72000 ] OK, here is what I think happened, but this all stems from you not being the only person who has access to root on your box. One of the other admin's has a program that they do not want to get updated by the nightly updates. First they put it in the yum.cron.excludes list, then they possibly put it in the /etc/yum.cron, as excluded. They were looking at the /etc/cron.daily/yum.cron with an editor and accidentally removed a letter. They might have been in vi and just typed 'x' instead of ':x', which would have deleted the $. They then decided that it would be better if yum just didn't run at all, so they did a /sbin/chkconfig --del yum Which would turn off yum. They then didn't tell you any of this. Troy Alex Finch wrote: > Troy, > > It seems something went wrong with my installation then. I had problems > getting the onboard ethernet > to be recognised during the installation. Strange if this yum problem > was a side effect of that. I haven't noticed > anything else not working as expected. > > When I tried what you suggest I got: > > /sbin/chkconfig --list yum > service yum supports chkconfig, but is not referenced in any runlevel > (run 'chkconfig --add yum') > > > rpm -qa | grep yum-conf > yum-conf-4x-1-5.SL.noarch > rpm -V yum-conf > package yum-conf is not installed > > rpm -V yum-conf-4x > S.5....TC c /etc/cron.daily/yum.cron > S.5....T. c /etc/yum.conf > S.5....T. c /etc/yum.d/yum.cron.excludes > S.5....T. c /etc/yum.repos.d/sl-testing.repo > > Alex > > Troy Dawson wrote: >> Alex Finch wrote: >>> Two small points: >>> >>> 1) I noticed that the yum update had not run on a recenly installed >>> 4.4 machine. Turned out that /var/lock/subsys/yum >>> did not exist - don't know why, has anyone else had this experience >>> on 4.4? >>> >> >> That happens if you have do a >> >> /etc/init.d/yum stop >> >> or have done a chkconfig and turned yum off. >> >>> 2) I also spotted a small error in >>> >>> /etc/cron.daily/yum.cron >>> >>> if [ utime -ge 72000] >>> >>> should be >>> >>> if [ $utime -ge 72000 ] >>> >>> >>> Alex Finch >> >> Nope ... just double checked on a fresh install, it is correct in that >> is says >> >> if [ $utime -ge 72000 ] >> >> I don't know why your's is wrong. Do a >> >> rpm -qa | grep yum-conf >> rpm -V yum-conf >> or >> rpm -V yum-conf-4x >> >> plus >> /sbin/chkconfig --list yum >> /sbin/chkconfig --level 2345 yum on >> >> Troy >> > > -- __________________________________________________ Troy Dawson [log in to unmask] (630)840-6468 Fermilab ComputingDivision/CSS CSI Group __________________________________________________