Howdy, OK, it looks like I left another thing off the list of things to do. The SL_desktop_tweeks package. The tweeks I want to put in are 1- GnomeTerminal button on the gnome panel 2- Konsole button on the kde panel 3- Turn "Last Login" back on in gdm I already know how to do 2 and 3. But I currently don't know how to put button's onto the new gnome panel. I'm not saying I won't find out. But if someone already has this done, and can let me know, that would save some time. (I'm talking about universally, so that when a new user get's an account they have the terminal button on their panel next to their web browser button.) Also, if there are any other desktop tweeks that 90 percent of your users just have to have changed, let me know. We'll see about putting them into either the main SL_desktop_tweeks, or make a new SL_whatever rpm. Thanks Troy -- __________________________________________________ Troy Dawson [log in to unmask] (630)840-6468 Fermilab ComputingDivision/CSS CSI Group __________________________________________________