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> Topics of the day:
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> 1. Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability (10)
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> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 15:45:33 +0000
> From: Dave Dykstra <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__forums.rockylinux.org_t_rocky-2Dlinux-2D8-2D4-2Davailable-2Dnow&d=DwIGaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=kwxuy5ps6ut13fMH-N31WmTc1k6n8W3qkYbzHMGeFcI&s=DVSDtTjoWnPkWg6C0JSfFiHMQugqpDIqzx_by9faa3Y&e=
>
> Dave
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 09:06:24 -0700
> From: Yasha Karant <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability
>
> Would those who have a spare machine (or more) and who install Rocky EL
> 8.4 please comment to this list. Some of the questions that might need
> to be answered are below.
>
> How easy was manual disk partitioning?
>
> How easy was selection of options, including the use of those from
> ElRepo et al that are standard repositories of often needed "addons" not
> available from the base distro?
>
> How easy was it to maintain non-systems areas that might be needed
> (e.g., /home , /opt , /usr/local )?
>
> Do applications that are needed and function under SL still function
> (perhaps with later release versions) on Rocky EL 8.4?
>
> After running Rocky EL 8.4 for a bit with a real load of typical
> applications and uses (and users as well), how stable is this distro?
>
> My understanding from previous postings to this list is that the
> problems are not just with a clone port of EL 8, but intrinsic to the
> RHEL 8 from IBM RH.
>
> Yasha Karant
>
>> On 6/22/21 8:45 AM, Dave Dykstra wrote:
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__forums.rockylinux.org_t_rocky-2Dlinux-2D8-2D4-2Davailable-2Dnow&d=DwICaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=RGQs2eqv5ebw95F1nVbIcCtySC9IF-N6FeB_gNrbfY8&s=U1iRg1x7zz9eQI5X5MbA8XFNvoCjU5VrsC5ISkZ2Y_4&e=
>>
>> Dave
>>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 17:34:36 +0000
> From: "Teh, Kenneth M." <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability
>
> I tried the boot iso but it does not have a built-in list of mirrors. I'm stuck at the installation source. I need a url, either a specific repo or a url. Please post if anyone knows one.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Yasha Karant <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:06 AM
> To: scientific-linux-users <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability
>
> Would those who have a spare machine (or more) and who install Rocky EL
> 8.4 please comment to this list. Some of the questions that might need
> to be answered are below.
>
> How easy was manual disk partitioning?
>
> How easy was selection of options, including the use of those from
> ElRepo et al that are standard repositories of often needed "addons" not
> available from the base distro?
>
> How easy was it to maintain non-systems areas that might be needed
> (e.g., /home , /opt , /usr/local )?
>
> Do applications that are needed and function under SL still function
> (perhaps with later release versions) on Rocky EL 8.4?
>
> After running Rocky EL 8.4 for a bit with a real load of typical
> applications and uses (and users as well), how stable is this distro?
>
> My understanding from previous postings to this list is that the
> problems are not just with a clone port of EL 8, but intrinsic to the
> RHEL 8 from IBM RH.
>
> Yasha Karant
>
>> On 6/22/21 8:45 AM, Dave Dykstra wrote:
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__forums.rockylinux.org_t_rocky-2Dlinux-2D8-2D4-2Davailable-2Dnow&d=DwICaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=RGQs2eqv5ebw95F1nVbIcCtySC9IF-N6FeB_gNrbfY8&s=U1iRg1x7zz9eQI5X5MbA8XFNvoCjU5VrsC5ISkZ2Y_4&e=
>>
>> Dave
>>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 17:48:10 +0000
> From: "Teh, Kenneth M." <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability
>
> I found the repo url. But no go on the install via the boot iso. It failed to retrieve an rpm after having retrieved several, glib2 in particular. Probably, download infrastructure is in a state of flux (?). I'll try again later in the week.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Teh, Kenneth M. <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 12:34 PM
> To: Yasha Karant <[log in to unmask]>; scientific-linux-users <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability
>
> I tried the boot iso but it does not have a built-in list of mirrors. I'm stuck at the installation source. I need a url, either a specific repo or a url. Please post if anyone knows one.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Yasha Karant <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:06 AM
> To: scientific-linux-users <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability
>
> Would those who have a spare machine (or more) and who install Rocky EL
> 8.4 please comment to this list. Some of the questions that might need
> to be answered are below.
>
> How easy was manual disk partitioning?
>
> How easy was selection of options, including the use of those from
> ElRepo et al that are standard repositories of often needed "addons" not
> available from the base distro?
>
> How easy was it to maintain non-systems areas that might be needed
> (e.g., /home , /opt , /usr/local )?
>
> Do applications that are needed and function under SL still function
> (perhaps with later release versions) on Rocky EL 8.4?
>
> After running Rocky EL 8.4 for a bit with a real load of typical
> applications and uses (and users as well), how stable is this distro?
>
> My understanding from previous postings to this list is that the
> problems are not just with a clone port of EL 8, but intrinsic to the
> RHEL 8 from IBM RH.
>
> Yasha Karant
>
>> On 6/22/21 8:45 AM, Dave Dykstra wrote:
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__forums.rockylinux.org_t_rocky-2Dlinux-2D8-2D4-2Davailable-2Dnow&d=DwICaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=RGQs2eqv5ebw95F1nVbIcCtySC9IF-N6FeB_gNrbfY8&s=U1iRg1x7zz9eQI5X5MbA8XFNvoCjU5VrsC5ISkZ2Y_4&e=
>>
>> Dave
>>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 13:51:11 -0500
> From: Jon Pruente <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability
>
> On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 12:34 PM Teh, Kenneth M. <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> I tried the boot iso but it does not have a built-in list of mirrors. I'm
>> stuck at the installation source. I need a url, either a specific repo or
>> a url. Please post if anyone knows one.
>>
>
> I had the same problem with the boot ISO. I used the minimal ISO to install
> a VM with a plain base system with DHCP networking and
> automatic partitioning. After rebooting into the installed OS everything
> seemed fine. I refreshed repo data, installed epel-release, refreshed
> again, then installed some basic tools from BaseOS and EPEL. For an
> initial install it was fine.
>
> ISTR it was CentOS that had a similar missing repo URL problem with their
> first 8 release.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 22:23:15 +0000
> From: Dave Dykstra <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability
>
> CentOS 8.4 release notes says they fixed that issue in that release,
> after having resolved it in CentOS Stream 8.
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.centos.org_Manuals_ReleaseNotes_CentOS8.2105-23Fully-5FFunctional-5FBoot-5FISO&d=DwIGaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=kwxuy5ps6ut13fMH-N31WmTc1k6n8W3qkYbzHMGeFcI&s=qFqkh3Y4HZOSLVznVnerNyYAcnY3iu-KDLE7KPV0Fb8&e=
>
> I suggest reporting the problem to bugs.rocky.org.
>
> Dave
>
>> On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 01:51:11PM -0500, Jon Pruente wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 12:34 PM Teh, Kenneth M. <
>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> I tried the boot iso but it does not have a built-in list of mirrors. I'm
>>> stuck at the installation source. I need a url, either a specific repo or
>>> a url. Please post if anyone knows one.
>>>
>>
>> I had the same problem with the boot ISO. I used the minimal ISO to install
>> a VM with a plain base system with DHCP networking and
>> automatic partitioning. After rebooting into the installed OS everything
>> seemed fine. I refreshed repo data, installed epel-release, refreshed
>> again, then installed some basic tools from BaseOS and EPEL. For an
>> initial install it was fine.
>>
>> ISTR it was CentOS that had a similar missing repo URL problem with their
>> first 8 release.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 17:45:33 -0500
> From: Jon Pruente <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability
>
>> On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 5:23 PM Dave Dykstra <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> CentOS 8.4 release notes says they fixed that issue in that release,
>> after having resolved it in CentOS Stream 8.
>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.centos.org_Manuals_ReleaseNotes_CentOS8.2105-23Fully-5FFunctional-5FBoot-5FISO&d=DwIBaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=X9IvmR0o7fmjMmy0QZhlH0vt2buTUoZNVMsuzJtMxck&s=FQivkZgxWQhjquM9obVjpYrDY3_zeTPenrAJnE1OG0Y&e=
>>
>> I suggest reporting the problem to bugs.rocky.org.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>
> I had thought the issue was resolved long ago. I'm amazed it took them
> almost 2 years and 4 more releases to actually fix it. Turns out that I've
> been using the CentOS Minimal ISO this whole time. I have, however, filed a
> bug with Rocky for it. Thanks for the link to the CentOS note, as I've
> included that in the bug report.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 23:11:40 +0000
> From: Dave Dykstra <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability
>
> It worked for me just now to use
> download.rockylinux.org/pub/rocky/8/BaseOS/x86_64/os
> and select a minimal install.
>
> Dave
>
>> On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 05:48:10PM +0000, Teh, Kenneth M. wrote:
>> I found the repo url. But no go on the install via the boot iso. It failed to retrieve an rpm after having retrieved several, glib2 in particular. Probably, download infrastructure is in a state of flux (?). I'll try again later in the week.
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Teh, Kenneth M. <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 12:34 PM
>> To: Yasha Karant <[log in to unmask]>; scientific-linux-users <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability
>>
>> I tried the boot iso but it does not have a built-in list of mirrors. I'm stuck at the installation source. I need a url, either a specific repo or a url. Please post if anyone knows one.
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Yasha Karant <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:06 AM
>> To: scientific-linux-users <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability
>>
>> Would those who have a spare machine (or more) and who install Rocky EL
>> 8.4 please comment to this list. Some of the questions that might need
>> to be answered are below.
>>
>> How easy was manual disk partitioning?
>>
>> How easy was selection of options, including the use of those from
>> ElRepo et al that are standard repositories of often needed "addons" not
>> available from the base distro?
>>
>> How easy was it to maintain non-systems areas that might be needed
>> (e.g., /home , /opt , /usr/local )?
>>
>> Do applications that are needed and function under SL still function
>> (perhaps with later release versions) on Rocky EL 8.4?
>>
>> After running Rocky EL 8.4 for a bit with a real load of typical
>> applications and uses (and users as well), how stable is this distro?
>>
>> My understanding from previous postings to this list is that the
>> problems are not just with a clone port of EL 8, but intrinsic to the
>> RHEL 8 from IBM RH.
>>
>> Yasha Karant
>>
>>> On 6/22/21 8:45 AM, Dave Dykstra wrote:
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__forums.rockylinux.org_t_rocky-2Dlinux-2D8-2D4-2Davailable-2Dnow&d=DwIGaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=kwxuy5ps6ut13fMH-N31WmTc1k6n8W3qkYbzHMGeFcI&s=DVSDtTjoWnPkWg6C0JSfFiHMQugqpDIqzx_by9faa3Y&e=
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2021 01:43:02 +0000
> From: "Teh, Kenneth M." <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability
>
> Ok. Will try it out. I did not choose a minimal install. I think I did a server install and selected some additional package groups: GNOME, development, system tools, and one more which I dont remember.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Dave Dykstra <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 6:11 PM
> To: Teh, Kenneth M. <[log in to unmask]>
> Cc: scientific-linux-users <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability
>
> It worked for me just now to use
> download.rockylinux.org/pub/rocky/8/BaseOS/x86_64/os
> and select a minimal install.
>
> Dave
>
>> On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 05:48:10PM +0000, Teh, Kenneth M. wrote:
>> I found the repo url. But no go on the install via the boot iso. It failed to retrieve an rpm after having retrieved several, glib2 in particular. Probably, download infrastructure is in a state of flux (?). I'll try again later in the week.
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Teh, Kenneth M. <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 12:34 PM
>> To: Yasha Karant <[log in to unmask]>; scientific-linux-users <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability
>>
>> I tried the boot iso but it does not have a built-in list of mirrors. I'm stuck at the installation source. I need a url, either a specific repo or a url. Please post if anyone knows one.
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Yasha Karant <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:06 AM
>> To: scientific-linux-users <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability
>>
>> Would those who have a spare machine (or more) and who install Rocky EL
>> 8.4 please comment to this list. Some of the questions that might need
>> to be answered are below.
>>
>> How easy was manual disk partitioning?
>>
>> How easy was selection of options, including the use of those from
>> ElRepo et al that are standard repositories of often needed "addons" not
>> available from the base distro?
>>
>> How easy was it to maintain non-systems areas that might be needed
>> (e.g., /home , /opt , /usr/local )?
>>
>> Do applications that are needed and function under SL still function
>> (perhaps with later release versions) on Rocky EL 8.4?
>>
>> After running Rocky EL 8.4 for a bit with a real load of typical
>> applications and uses (and users as well), how stable is this distro?
>>
>> My understanding from previous postings to this list is that the
>> problems are not just with a clone port of EL 8, but intrinsic to the
>> RHEL 8 from IBM RH.
>>
>> Yasha Karant
>>
>>> On 6/22/21 8:45 AM, Dave Dykstra wrote:
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__forums.rockylinux.org_t_rocky-2Dlinux-2D8-2D4-2Davailable-2Dnow&d=DwIFAw&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=Jv3AaE5g_mSo58RbU-YPCu-rFk-eOddCa2WcSsN2i9Q&s=2-1uWNIYIGcgeypV8jS6BidRs_g9QKNNyp9dWKWm_70&e=
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 19:59:00 -0700
> From: Yasha Karant <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability
>
> Typically, a minimal install for a workstation is some window manager
> and bare bones utilities. Assuming one wants either a fully functional
> workstation or a server, how does one move from the bare bones to what
> one wants?
>
> On previous major release SL installs (and current Ubuntu LTS initial
> install -- after that, one seems to be able to get to later major
> releases without doing a full install, merely upgrade in place), I get
> to install "packages" I want from the base distro, and then I expand
> from the other repos. A bare bones install seems as it might not have
> the packages one wants.
>
> Also, does a bare bones install allow for manual partitioning of a drive
> (both "hard" and SSD)?
>
> Yasha Karant
>
>> On 6/22/21 4:11 PM, Dave Dykstra wrote:
>> It worked for me just now to use
>> download.rockylinux.org/pub/rocky/8/BaseOS/x86_64/os
>> and select a minimal install.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 05:48:10PM +0000, Teh, Kenneth M. wrote:
>>> I found the repo url. But no go on the install via the boot iso. It failed to retrieve an rpm after having retrieved several, glib2 in particular. Probably, download infrastructure is in a state of flux (?). I'll try again later in the week.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Teh, Kenneth M. <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 12:34 PM
>>> To: Yasha Karant <[log in to unmask]>; scientific-linux-users <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Subject: Re: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability
>>>
>>> I tried the boot iso but it does not have a built-in list of mirrors. I'm stuck at the installation source. I need a url, either a specific repo or a url. Please post if anyone knows one.
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Yasha Karant <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:06 AM
>>> To: scientific-linux-users <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Subject: Re: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability
>>>
>>> Would those who have a spare machine (or more) and who install Rocky EL
>>> 8.4 please comment to this list. Some of the questions that might need
>>> to be answered are below.
>>>
>>> How easy was manual disk partitioning?
>>>
>>> How easy was selection of options, including the use of those from
>>> ElRepo et al that are standard repositories of often needed "addons" not
>>> available from the base distro?
>>>
>>> How easy was it to maintain non-systems areas that might be needed
>>> (e.g., /home , /opt , /usr/local )?
>>>
>>> Do applications that are needed and function under SL still function
>>> (perhaps with later release versions) on Rocky EL 8.4?
>>>
>>> After running Rocky EL 8.4 for a bit with a real load of typical
>>> applications and uses (and users as well), how stable is this distro?
>>>
>>> My understanding from previous postings to this list is that the
>>> problems are not just with a clone port of EL 8, but intrinsic to the
>>> RHEL 8 from IBM RH.
>>>
>>> Yasha Karant
>>>
>>> On 6/22/21 8:45 AM, Dave Dykstra wrote:
>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__forums.rockylinux.org_t_rocky-2Dlinux-2D8-2D4-2Davailable-2Dnow&d=DwICaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=900BoUzT1UboaXTCd5bqp2ABPOlO9GJJJA1WE8o18vU&s=DIFSIW-zURjOQy8n9l2HkpDU9gqAzjcmnu79wdKWjGE&e=
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>
> ------------------------------
>
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