If I understand your (Leon) interpretation of the IBM RH EULA, those who 
*START* from the actual, official, IBM RH source used for IBM RH EL, not 
that which is released currently as CentOS, violates that EULA.  Before 
CentOS became part of RH, later IBM RH, ("became part" is a WTO legal 
acquisition of intellectual property, such as logos, not necessarily 
personnel, etc), what did CentOS use?  If the only EULA allowed "source" 
for IBM RH EL is CentOS, not the actual IBM RH EL source, the only way 
to determine the fidelity of the CentOS source to the IBM RH EL source 
is for an entity (person?) who has a license to acquire the IBM RH EL 
source and do a string by string comparison.  The only differences 
should be logos and the like.  If the differences are build order, 
building methods, etc., one could envision latent defects and the like 
between the IBM RH EL installable "binaries" and the equivalent CentOS 
output file -- such latent defects should not be present if all 
compilers (including the "same" compiler save for release version) were 
defect-for-defect identical, and there were no loading/construction 
stream order defects (crudely, not revealed if A is built before B, but 
revealed if B is built before A).

Yasha Karant

On 5/5/21 3:17 AM, Leon Fauster wrote:
> On 05.05.21 01:11, Mark Rousell wrote:
>> On 04/05/2021 23:41, Leon Fauster wrote:
>>> The source are at 
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__git.centos.org&d=DwICaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=0Cvrr_2WDkcsrPdHGtY_tjL0G9TG69QDuL7UWeyXUhc&s=ujZIUv5p_MGjr0gtRL9D7zIJAitkNauyt8wOXo1WxwQ&e= 
>>>
>>
>> That's CentOS isn't it? That's fine if one wants to try and build 
>> CentOS but if one is building a RHEL clone (with Red Hat proprietary 
>> IP removed of course) then one would need the RHEL sources. The RHEL 
>> sources are available from 
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__access.redhat.com_downloads_&d=DwICaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=WwimKFFTyT3RShYiLFCGJpfGoLSUOFCE0z0_KBEyonY&s=TeQZDfODXKCZcEMTkVQuDIuZmOkbTDT3Q1tUmniPwKY&e=  
>> as long as you have a suitable account.
>>
>> And, in any case, after CentOS 8 support ends then the only CentOS 
>> sources will be CentOS Stream sources which, as has been discussed at 
>> length, will not be suitable for many use cases.
>>
> 
> 
> Just to rephrase it: RHEL SOURCES are at the mentioned git server
> and before RHEL7 it where on there FTP servers.
> 
> After EOL of C8 the sources should be still be pushed into git.
> 
> Using other SRPMS (like out of a RH Account) should be against
> RH's EULA. Remember, when your intention is to build a clone.
> 
> Rocky is consuming via git.centos.org and Alma should also using it.
> BTW, its questionable where the sources for AL8.4beta is coming
> from ...?
> 
> AFAIK: The future will show if this all will be moved to gitlab ...
> 
> Thats so far my understanding.
> 
> -- 
> Leon