On Mon, May 03, 2021 at 11:25:22AM +0000, Bonnie King wrote:
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> There hasn't been any official statement. On the Fermilab side we are holding discussions and gathering feedback from experiments and other collaborators.
> We are working on it and will make an announcement soon.
>
Ok, thanks. I hope you find the discussions on this mailing list as useful input into your deliberations.
I wish it did not take 6 months to sort it out, but I guess (a) with covid, everything takes longer (true for me),
and (b) it reflects the size of the doo-doo red hat have stepped on (instead of walking around it).
At TRIUMF, my feeling is that there will be further splintering of Linux user base, the central
computing group is likely staying with red hat, for the experiments, we replace SL6 with Ubuntu,
one big experiment group just upgraded SL6 to CentOS-7 and is likely to stay there, for new installs
we offer a choice of Ubuntu or CentOS-8 (with the caveat of no support after December). RaspberryPi,
nano-pi, etc is all Raspbian (debian).
Looks like a repeat of the UNIX fragmentation of the 1990-ies, where everybody's computer is just slightly
different to cause trouble.
The main driver of linux choice is "latest c++" (c++17, c++20) and "latest python".
K.O.
> Bonnie King
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> Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2021 9:27 AM
> To: Dave Dykstra
> Cc: scientific-linux-users
> Subject: Re: any update on CERN Linux and CentOS-8 situation?
>
> On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 09:35:02PM +0000, Dave Dykstra wrote:
> > Both Fermilab and CERN have stated that they plan to use CentOS 8 stream
> > for now (or Scientific Linux 7 or CentOS 7) and will evaluate later
> > whether or not to switch to one of the clones.
>
> Interesting. I do not see any information about this and I believe
> I receive both internal and external official communications from CERN.
>
> Do you know who and when made this "centos stream" statement?
>
> K.O.
>
>
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 10:35:18AM -0700, Konstantin Olchanski wrote:
> > > Any news or updates on the status of CERN Linux?
> > >
> > > Per https://linux.web.cern.ch/centos8/ CERN users are strongly encouraged
> > > to use CentOS-8 while the same page states that support for CentOS-8 will
> > > end at the end of this year. Update is promised "during Q1 2021", today
> > > we are 1/3 into Q2 2021, and there is no new information.
> > >
> > > The CentOS forums are graveyard quiet. (censored?)
> > >
> > > Any information from the FermiLab side of things? Any information from the SL side
> > > of things? Any rumours?
> > >
> > > I opened a support ticket with CERN about this, let's see what they say.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Konstantin Olchanski
> > > Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow!
> > > Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca
> > > Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada
>
> --
> Konstantin Olchanski
> Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow!
> Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca
> Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada
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Konstantin Olchanski
Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow!
Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca
Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada
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