I fully concur -- a clear statement of a concern about the source and any authentication/pay-walls limiting access to that source. I assume that the official rebuilders other than SL have paid the necessary fees to download the real, actual, production IBM RH EL buildable source as referenced below, currently at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__access.redhat.com_downloads_&d=DwICaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=j7mNaMr3RpyEdYeH8As2iHvK3COgKfyQyUEjt2ii5IY&s=p3k8zDAgC2P7lVIg-CwRQDgEYcVE4tshZ2NTxmm8ZDM&e= . I do not have access -- but I assume that both Rocky and AlmaLinux have purchased the necessary access license. I have not attempted to get a "dev" IBM RH license that supposedly is at no cost -- has anyone done so and down a full buildable source download? Does this also access the update buildable source for the installable "binary" updates provided by IBM RH EL for the licensees? On 5/4/21 4:11 PM, Mark Rousell wrote: > On 04/05/2021 23:41, Leon Fauster wrote: >> The source are at >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__git.centos.org&d=DwICaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=0Cvrr_2WDkcsrPdHGtY_tjL0G9TG69QDuL7UWeyXUhc&s=ujZIUv5p_MGjr0gtRL9D7zIJAitkNauyt8wOXo1WxwQ&e= >> > > That's CentOS isn't it? That's fine if one wants to try and build CentOS > but if one is building a RHEL clone (with Red Hat proprietary IP removed > of course) then one would need the RHEL sources. The RHEL sources are > available from https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__access.redhat.com_downloads_&d=DwICaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=j7mNaMr3RpyEdYeH8As2iHvK3COgKfyQyUEjt2ii5IY&s=p3k8zDAgC2P7lVIg-CwRQDgEYcVE4tshZ2NTxmm8ZDM&e= as long as you have > a suitable account. > > And, in any case, after CentOS 8 support ends then the only CentOS > sources will be CentOS Stream sources which, as has been discussed at > length, will not be suitable for many use cases. >