On 05.05.21 00:10, Mark Rousell wrote:
> On 04/05/2021 21:42, Yasha Karant wrote:
>> Your statement at the end indicates that I have missed a source 
>> distribution channel.
> 
> Sorry, which statement is that?
> 
> Just for the avoidance of doubt, my comment about "Discourse" was a 
> reference to the Discourse software <Discourse - Civilized Discussion 
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.discourse.org_&d=DwMDaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=Rv6JPgfKB6WloyI9yzgIIJbr2llfrUuvqHQYxk1NNJw&s=h7okDDver9ejoWFtsZ0S8V58a9TPFpgQrea3hqgyB5U&e=>> 
> that Alma uses in place of a more traditional web forum.
> 
>> You state that there will not be a CentOS 9 and only a CentOS Stream 
>> perpetual alpha or beta channel.
> 
> To be clear, I'm just an observer of all this but surely the whole point 
> of Red Hat's infamous announcement is that CentOS 8 is to be the last 
> version of non-Stream CentOS. So we know that there will not be a CentOS 
> 9. And we do know that there will be a CentOS Stream 9 because they have 
> announced it.
> 
>> I thought that IBM RH would not directly release buildable production 
>> EL source, but would channel it under a CentOS moniker.
> 
> To the best of my knowledge Red Hat never announced any change to the 
> release of RHEL source in accordance with the software licences. If you 
> have access to RHEL then you have access to the source ISOs.
> 
>> How does IAS Springdale, Rocky, Alma, etc., get buildable production 
>> source for IBM RHEL9?
> 
> I would assume that (a) they download it from Red Hat using an account 
> with legitimate access to RHEL (such as a free dev account), (b) modify 
> it to remove Red Hat trademarked IP, and (c) design and operate a build 
> system that allows them to build it. They will presumably get the RHEL9 
> source ISO as and when RHEL9 is available.
> 
> I have a free Red Hat dev account (the same account type that has now 
> been extended to cover 16 free RHEL licences) and I can freely download 
> the ISOs containing the source.



The source are at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__git.centos.org&d=DwICaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=0Cvrr_2WDkcsrPdHGtY_tjL0G9TG69QDuL7UWeyXUhc&s=ujZIUv5p_MGjr0gtRL9D7zIJAitkNauyt8wOXo1WxwQ&e= 



>> Does one have to buy the source from IBM RH? Will IBM RH or another 
>> IBM entity house the production source for the current production EL? 
>> What about the defect correction, including security defects, as well 
>> as minor release, update production source?
> 
> Nothing has changed to the best of my knowledge. It's all available 
> according to the GPL terms. (Yes, I know that the RHEL software almost 
> certainly contains code licensed under other software licences but GPL 
> is certainly the main one that is of concern.)
> 



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Leon