Dave,
Thanks for your response. My message was going to everyone on the list, not necessarily just the decision makers. To me/us it’s important to involve the whole community not just any specific decision makers.
Thanks for your feedback. If you don’t mind, can you just give me more insight/feedback as to why you think that Rocky is better positioned? I’m curious to hear your opinion.
Thanks,
Jack
> On May 4, 2021, at 11:30, Dave Dykstra <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Hi Jack,
>
> I am not involved in the decision-making regarding Linux here at
> Fermilab, so I'm just a community member as well. I think it's good
> to have options but in my opinion the Rocky Linux effort is better
> positioned for long term support by the community than AlmaLinux is.
>
> Dave
>
> On Mon, May 03, 2021 at 05:54:35PM -0400, Jack Aboutboul wrote:
>> Hi Bonnie, Dave, et. al.
>>
>> I am a long time Fedora person and now the community manager of AlmaLinux.
>>
>> We certainly understand the quandary you are now in and we deeply value the work that you and the scientific (both capital S and lower-case) community do. It is of utmost importance to humanity. Likewise, we can only begin to image the loop that the CentOS EOL announcement must have caused you.
>>
>> We are ready, willing and able to help. We released our x86_64 STABLE a drop over a month ago and are working on other architectures now. We are also in the process of opening up our-next generation build system, amongst other things.
>>
>> I extend a hand to the Scientific community-at-large to work together with you all to build whatever it is that you need. We are even open to offering a board seat (yes despite what FUD people try and spread, we are community-governed) to someone from fermilab/cern (or some other representative) to ensure that the relevant voices are heard and acted upon.
>>
>> I'm reaching out to you out of my own volition, because I respect you and the work you do and its vital impact in the humanity both present and future.
>>
>> Seriously, anything we can do for you guys, any way we can help in order to promote and foster scientific research, we stand at the fore ready to get it done.
>>
>> I am sure there may be questions and I would be glad to answer anything anyone would like to know more about.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Jack
>>
>>> On May 3, 2021, at 07:25, Bonnie King <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Konstantin,
>>>
>>> There hasn't been any official statement. On the Fermilab side we are holding discussions and gathering feedback from experiments and other collaborators.
>>>
>>> We are working on it and will make an announcement soon.
>>>
>>> Bonnie King
>>>
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Konstantin Olchanski <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2021 9:27 AM
>>> To: Dave Dykstra
>>> Cc: scientific-linux-users
>>> Subject: Re: any update on CERN Linux and CentOS-8 situation?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 09:35:02PM +0000, Dave Dykstra wrote:
>>>> Both Fermilab and CERN have stated that they plan to use CentOS 8 stream
>>>> for now (or Scientific Linux 7 or CentOS 7) and will evaluate later
>>>> whether or not to switch to one of the clones.
>>>
>>> Interesting. I do not see any information about this and I believe
>>> I receive both internal and external official communications from CERN.
>>>
>>> Do you know who and when made this "centos stream" statement?
>>>
>>> K.O.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 10:35:18AM -0700, Konstantin Olchanski wrote:
>>>>> Any news or updates on the status of CERN Linux?
>>>>>
>>>>> Per https://linux.web.cern.ch/centos8/ CERN users are strongly encouraged
>>>>> to use CentOS-8 while the same page states that support for CentOS-8 will
>>>>> end at the end of this year. Update is promised "during Q1 2021", today
>>>>> we are 1/3 into Q2 2021, and there is no new information.
>>>>>
>>>>> The CentOS forums are graveyard quiet. (censored?)
>>>>>
>>>>> Any information from the FermiLab side of things? Any information from the SL side
>>>>> of things? Any rumours?
>>>>>
>>>>> I opened a support ticket with CERN about this, let's see what they say.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Konstantin Olchanski
>>>>> Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow!
>>>>> Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca
>>>>> Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada
>>>
>>> --
>>> Konstantin Olchanski
>>> Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow!
>>> Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca
>>> Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada
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