On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 04:49:00PM +0000, Queen, Steven Z. (GSFC-5910) wrote:
>
> I don't think this list is an appropriate place for political discussions.
>

I agree, I think the OP should not have brought this subject on this list.

>
> Hopefully an administrator will intervene.
> If this continues, I will unsubscribe.
> 

Unfortunately, technical, policy and political issues mix together and
there is no avoiding that. Ignoring them is dangerous, they have a way
of catching up to you in whatever cave or monastery or retreat you choose
to hide in.

K.O.


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> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 9:04 AM
> To: LaToya Anderson <[log in to unmask]>
> Cc: Andrew C Aitchison <[log in to unmask]>; Keith Lofstrom <[log in to unmask]>; Mailing list for Scientific Linux users worldwide <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Code bias video, watch it ASAP
> 
> On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 7:24 AM LaToya Anderson
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > Data does not remove bias. And one can and should both read the article and watch the movie.
> >
> > STEM Academy Instructor
> 
> Data rather than mere exposition helps prevent bias. How do you refute
> or counter unfair bias except with data?
> 
> The movie is, itself, profoundly biased. It didn't explore at all why
> a public housing project might benefit from cameras on the door of a
> densely populated building with numerous poor, old, or unhealthy
> tenants. The movie was an icon of "Critical Theory", portraying the
> attempt to use science and engineering for social problems as a plot
> against the oppressed.
> 
> I've lived in scary neighborhoods of London. London accepts and
> expects a degree of CCTV monitoring that is outrageous to Americans.
> Sadly, citizens can't *get* the videos when a crime occurs, and
> photographic evidence can be misused against the innocent. Been there,
> done that, watched a London parking cop frame the photos they took to
> document a parking ticket, really ticked him off when I very obviously
> took photos at angles that showed the car was, in fact parked near a
> sign that gave permission and curb markings that matched.

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