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With yum, i used 'yum -y --downloadonly update' and saved 
'/var/cache/yum' away, copying it over

to additional clients before 'update'. That avoided additional downloads 
altogether


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On 4/12/21 9:58 PM, Yasha Karant wrote
> That is precisely what I did -- install from media -- but during the 
> install (if memory serves -- this may have been another distro that I 
> had to install on an enduser machine), the option to update was given 
> (as the bootable ISO install image was not "current" with the latest 
> security updates, etc) and then a choice of mirrors appeared.  As I 
> recall, if a particular mirror was off-line, etc, one could then 
> return to the mirror choice and choose a different mirror.
>
> Our real network throughput was too low in most cases to do a full 
> install over the Internet (although an image on a LAN SAN/NAS had 
> enough throughput); as the security update had to be done in any 
> event, I did this during initial install if possible (with later 
> updates done on the installed resulting live system -- we were not 
> using a Type 1 hypervisor system with deployable full supervisor OS 
> image and had tried several central deployment options, chef, etc, but 
> mostly did things by hand).
>
> Again, the update during install may not have been from SL, as I have 
> not done a fresh install of SL since the advent of SL 7.
>
> On 4/12/21 12:11 PM, RL wrote:
>> Why netinstall? Get the ISO, use it from a USB stick. The ISO will 
>> avoid excessive additional downloads
>>
>> if installing more hosts with virtualbox or vmware
>>
>> My 5 Cents
>>
>> Rainer
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>
>>
>> On 4/12/21 5:40 PM, Yasha Karant wrote:
>>> Perhaps someone can refresh my memory: under old EL, was the mirror 
>>> list statically built into the install package, dynamically loaded 
>>> if an Internet connection is available, or a mix of these two?  I 
>>> donot recall having to type long strings such as mirror URLs into 
>>> the "old" installs.
>>>
>>> For IBM RH, a limited list of IBM RH "owned" servers makes business 
>>> sense, but not for an open system licensed for free. (The argument 
>>> of cost transference through the use of a no-cost-to-the-business 
>>> server often is outweighed by market control and brand 
>>> identification enforced loyalty arguments.)
>>>
>>> On 4/12/21 2:55 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 5:23 AM Takashi Ichihara
>>>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> My recollection of a fresh install of SL (it has been a number 
>>>>>>> of years,
>>>>>> and thus memory may be defective) is that SL provided a set of 
>>>>>> mirrors.
>>>>>> Is one to assume that AL8 has no such mirrors or that AL8 network
>>>>>> bootable media does not include the list so established?
>>>>>
>>>>> Just one comment.
>>>>>
>>>>> AlmaLinux already has a lot of mirros! ( 75 mirror sites now :-) )
>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mirrors.almalinux.org_&d=DwIBaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=y7r9iro2whYATmZvTlfDdVMBibosCwY4wOi8tLPubYc&s=iNBj7JqH-k8I7-Rb1JRBt7cEypGutVRrBPCPo7siPmc&e= 
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> RHEL 8 installation media do not have a console selectable "pick a
>>>> mirror from this list to install from", nor does CentOS 8. You have to
>>>> type it in manually in the network based installation interface, or
>>>> work from the installation DVD rather than the netinstall ISO and
>>>> avoid network installation altogether. AlmaLinux 8 would have to
>>>> violate binary consistency with RHEL to fix this flaw.
>>>>
>>>> This kind of stupidity is one of customer burdening regression in a
>>>> vital tool is one of the reasons I'm not happy with RHEL 8 and the
>>>> clones, and am not championing it.
>>>>

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