Metoo. I use the MATE desktop, as the least annoying of all
desktops available on all three of el6, el7 and Ubuntu LTS 18.04.

As for el8, officially everything except some gnome is removed,
KDE was never available, probably still not available, so meh.

FWIW, I am evaluating el8 and ubuntu LTS 20.04 in parallel, so far,
el8/ubuntu package versions: python 3.6/3.8, gcc 8.x/9.x, php 7.2/7.4;
Ubuntu can boot from zfs (18.04 you have to follow a check list, 20.04
supposedly the installer can install straight to ZFS). On el8 I will not even try
boot from ZFS, for sure there is some systemd bogosity that will
prevent it from working (like systemd refused to boot from degraded btrfs).

Sorry to bring this up again, but other than for nostalgia and inertia,
there is not much point to el8.

K.O.


On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 09:48:28PM -0700, Keith Lofstrom wrote:
> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 4:45 PM Keith Lofstrom <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > I've done my feeble best to compile Mate for CentOS 8; my
> > result is not completely broken, but not ready for use.
> > Some of the graphics fails.  "Mate8" seems to leak memory.
> 
> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 05:08:34PM -0700, Akemi Yagi wrote:
> > There is a thread on the CentOS mailing list about Mate for el8 that you
> > may want to take a look:
> > 
> > lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2020-May/350284.html
> 
> Thanks for that;  about six messages down that thread is
> a pointer to a webpage discussing compiled packages:
> 
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__copr.fedoracloud.org_coprs_stenstorp_MATE&d=DwIBAg&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=Q6LCVHs6caad7nOhlIGsnO-ZZUhyem88W6GHqfhenh8&s=7XyJM3wNZhcVzu5ozYZvc9sKtl4zp0lRlr7HMXiXXP8&e= 
> 
> I will copy my borked home compilations to backups, then
> install that version of MATE.  Many of us are installing
> MATE; I probably made my clumsy attempts prematurely.
> 
> ----
> 
> To others who suggest alternate ways to use linux ... thanks,
> but I'm an old dog, and a gnome2 user since it was a puppy.
> MATE comes closest.  
> 
> My "new trick" schedule is overloaded with math and physics
> skills that I hope to learn soon, skills that would have
> been much easier to learn 50 years ago.
> 
> -----
> 
> Finding the gnome3 text rendering flaw will be more difficult. 
> That flaw is why my subnotebooks still run SL6.
> 
> 
> Keith
> 
> -- 
> Keith Lofstrom          [log in to unmask]

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