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This is probably heresy to you but I'll pitch it anyway. I'm also a terminal, command line person, having started with AIX in '89, and VMS before that.

I've been using Fedora with gnome 3 now for the past 3 years after I ran into problems with outdated development tools.  It is surprisingly very command line friendly. I invoke all my apps from the keyboard  The Super (Windows) key is your friend.  Hit Super and type the name of the app, and up pops its window.  And it does name completion as well showing your possible matched options after having typed only the first few letters of the app's name. And if you don't care to type the name, super and tab to "scroll" down the icons of your favorites on the dock, and hit return.

And since CentOS is essentially Fedora-based, the file layouts are identical. I remember struggling to find files, even the package names when I had to put Ubuntu on a newly-bought laptop.

My biggest concern was the rapid obsolescence. But I've learned to deal with it.  The upgrade is painless and the dnf system-upgrade has worked without any problems from 27 to 31 which is where I am now.

Well, just my 2 bits.

Good luck.


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From: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Akemi Yagi <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 7:08 PM
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Cc: Mailing list for Scientific Linux users worldwide
Subject: Re: Mate for CentOS 8

On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 4:45 PM Keith Lofstrom <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
I still haven't learned how to tweak Gnome 3 so it looks
and operates like Gnome 2.

I dislike video games, which most user desktops seem to
be evolving towards.  I dislike icons replacing text;
I learned to read decades ago, and I can't grep icons.

I use Mate (a gnome 2 clone with gnome 3 underneath)
for my large-screen SL7 systems; works OK.

I've done my feeble best to compile Mate for CentOS 8; my
result is not completely broken, but not ready for use.
Some of the graphics fails.  "Mate8" seems to leak memory.

Mate character rendering (SL7 and C8) is fuzzy, just like
all gnome3 character rendering.  No big deal on a 4K*X
pixel screen, quite a problem on a portable 1K*X pixel
screen.  Xterm renders fine, as sharp as gnome2, but
xterm isn't as versatile as gnome2- and mate-terminal.

Are there other Gnome2/Mate dinosaurs on this list?

Perhaps we can combine efforts so the gaping holes in our
understanding don't completely overlap.  If nothing else,
perhaps we can develop a list of setup steps to disinfect
gnome3 and make it smell less gamy.

Then we can go back to our research, and stop distracting
others from their tweets, popup ads, and cute cat videos.

Keith

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Keith Lofstrom          [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>

There is a thread on the CentOS mailing list about Mate for el8 that you may want to take a look:

lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2020-May/350284.html<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.centos.org_pipermail_centos_2020-2DMay_350284.html&d=DwMFaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=qxOs_vE0fjjDtJgpudydmZoiZvYjJjxt9gAPv_7O4Y8&s=kR2cRGZPsdgC7jgA7aBqbB8p7o9BOwh2jC6TuqZubYA&e=>

Akemi



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