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Larry Linder <[log in to unmask]>
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We have used it since SL 4.1
As a small engineering manufacturing company we rely on its stability.
As an old Unix guy it was easy.
We have added a lot of packages to it for various Engineering projects
and with Maria DB is runs our manufacturing operation.
We have a few thousand scripts to do odd jobs at night.
We use it as a server for our few Widows machines that cannot be trusted
with critical stuff.
Our file system is huge for a company as we have been shoveling project
files and part libraries into it for 20 years.

We have tried Cent 8 and it is a miserable example of cute but
disfunctional desk top.  It could not be connected to any of our other
machines and the number of mouse clicks to do anything is horrible.

Fedora was a mistake.  Driven by people with no commercial experience.

When the Boss is breathing down your neck and asking why the invoices
didn't go out on time or worse yet is paychecks that are late Friday
Noon and the guys in the shop are not very understanding.

What we have been looking at is PC Linux because it still uses the
traditional Unix boot scheme.  To reorganize something that worded well
with a supervisery bunch of code is nonsense.  So it allows a server to
boot a bit faster.  We reboot our server once every 6 mo.  It's down
just enough to allow a cleaning and checking of fans / filters.  So why
bother.  

So my attitude is bqd but I can rest easy and not worry about a call in
the middle of the night saying the server is down and we need it Monday
@ 7 AM.

Larry Linder



 

On Mon, 2020-02-24 at 15:32 +0000, Tapia, Ron wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Speaking as an individual, I have two primary motivations for using SL. The first is that I feel that if I were to report a bug or contribute a fix or answer a question on this mailing list, I would be contributing in some small way to the HEP/SL community. The second is that I feel that the focus and interests of the SL maintainers might be aligned mine. For example, I imagine that a LaTeX problem might be a minor crisis for SL maintainers, but a blip for Red Hat/CentOS. I suppose the decision not to continue SL has been made, but it's a pity. I wonder if it was considered not just as a technical project, but a form of outreach.
> 
> Around research computing and central IT here at Penn State, both RHEL7 and SL7 are supported and in use. RHEL7 is used where a support contract is a must.
> 
> I'm not sure what I'll do after SL7, but I'm certain that I will look into Debian as an option as well as Centos8.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Ron
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Serguei Mokhov <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 9:49 AM
> To: Peter Willis
> Cc: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Who Uses Scientific Linux, and How/Why?
> 
> In the Gina Cody School of Engineering and Computer Science, at
> Concordia University, Montreal, we've been using SL since around SL5
> for our 100+ servers, 1000+ lab desktops (dual boot), and recent HPC
> facility Speed (concordia.ca/ginacody/aits/speed) loaded with all kind
> of engineering and parallel processing packages and stuff for
> deeplearning, etc. -- the packages are compiled on an NFS-mounted
> software partition at all locations.
> 
> Why? Primarily because SL was championed by Fermilab and CERN and
> provided support for minor version releases unlike CentOS. And we've
> been a RH shop in the past for all of our infrastructure for a long
> time. SL was the best stable option compared to the alternatives back
> then and CentOS faced uncertainty. We tried Fedora in the past for the
> desktops, but maintaining that many lab desktops every semester from
> bleeding edge updates breaking stuff too often, forced us to move
> desktops off Fedora to SL as well.
> 
> Still using it all today, but for EL8 we will be something of an
> adventure I guess at some point in the future.
> 
> -s
> 
> On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 9:09 AM Peter Willis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> >
> > The variation in uses of t Scientific Linux is quite interesting.
> >
> > As mentioned before, we are using it for fluid dynamics modelling and oceanography, in the context of parallel computing with OpenMP and MPICH.
> >
> >
> >
> > I am curious to see what everyone else have been using it for.
> >
> >
> >
> > Perhaps, if it’s not too much trouble, people on the list might give a short blurb about how they use it and why.
> >
> > Maybe also mention others they know who are using it who are not on this list.
> >
> >
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >I'm no scientist, just an electronics guy who do a lot of research in RF (as hobby, mostly testing antennas for ham radio in VHF bands) from Argentina.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >Fot SL the most "well done" linux distribution, for people who simply knows.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >Will look forward to move to another distribution.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >>I'm an independent electronics inventor, heavily dependent
> > >>on both competent software and competent laboratory science,
> > >>both for the knowledge I depend on and the tools I use to
> > >>transform that knowledge into products and services for
> > >>my customers.
> > >>
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Serguei Mokhov
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