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Yasha Karant <[log in to unmask]>
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Yasha Karant <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 20 Feb 2020 23:32:46 -0800
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I used the term "dead".  SL7 (and earlier?) is still active.  By dead, I 
did not mean SL 7, I meant SL in general for the future.   As I 
understand the situation, Fermilab/CERN (and thus the HEP community upon 
which many of us are "piggybacking" -- not freeloading if one is paying 
taxes to a government that is providing funding to Fermilab or CERN) has 
abandoned SL going forward -- NO SL 8, but Fermilab/CERN will be using 
CentOS 8 (with modifications?  I do not know).  CentOS is a RedHat 
subsidiary, and RedHat is fully owned by IBM.  Thus, one must depend 
upon the good will (profit motive?) of IBM to provide a viable CentOS 8 
that may be competing with the for-profit RHEL 8 of IBM.  SL may be 
dependent upon the RHEL sources that RedHat and IBM are required to 
provide under the GPL, etc., but will make things operational and, as a 
separate distro, also is required to release source.  Once SL is not a 
distro, internal changes at Fermilab/CERN to CentOS do not have the same 
general "public" immediacy as would an official public distro.  As has 
been explained elsewhere, going from such source to a bootable stable 
useful OS environment is no trivial matter -- an OS does not simply and 
automatically "rebuild" from such source.  It is important that a distro 
be professionally maintained, not by amateur volunteers.  The latter 
approach may work for some applications, but not an entire OS that is a 
much more complicated entity than most applications.  The professional 
staff doing the distro presumably have this work as part of their 
assigned compensated duties, not simply as an amateur when one has the 
time for it (retired or independently wealthy professionals doing the 
distro are not the personnel base upon which one can rely).

On 2/20/20 11:12 PM, Pwillis wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Is Scientific Linux still active?
> There was another message that alluded to ’SL’ being ‘dead’.
>
> Installing this on a diskless node system is not an option if the distribution is no longer supported.
>
> Thanks fort any info,
>
> Peter

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