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Stephan Wiesand <[log in to unmask]>
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> On 7. Oct 2019, at 18:17, Jose Marques <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>> On 7 Oct 2019, at 16:43, Fait, James F. <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>> I tend to ignore ANY distribution with a .0 suffix.
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> I'm going through the process of updating our kickstart scripts, repos, and puppet config for Centos8. We (CS at St Andrews) have been using SL7 but we also deploy Fedora 30. Centos8 is a lot more like the latter.

Right, and once more it's a huge step from ELn to ELn+1. Those 4+ years between major releases are just too long IMHO. Remember when RHEL set out, it was about quarterly minor releases and major ones every 12-18 months. Maybe that would have been a bit too frequent, and of course these things change over time. But it's quite a burden on admins when for example the next EL release is based on a Fedora release which has long abandoned any backward compatibility with the one the previous EL release was based on - even if it's retrofitted in some later minor EL release (like systemd vs. sysvinit). It's really sad, but yes this is a good reason to largely ignore EL .0 releases (and probably at least .1 ones too).

>  The only thing concerning me so far is the lack of packages in EPEL. There are things we use from EPEL on SL7 that are not present in EPEL on Centos8. Maybe it's still being built out but if not then that may delay us deploying it (more things we have to package).

AFAIK EPEL is built on CentOS systems, and given that CentOS 8 has been out for just a couple of days now I wouldn't expect EPEL 8 to be anywhere near complete for now. Chances are this will work out.

What I'm really curious about is folks' thoughts on "CentOS Stream". Will it scratch our itches?

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