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Serguei Mokhov <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 24 Jul 2018 15:52:01 -0400
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It appears it mangles URLs that begin with http and www at the moment.

-s

On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 3:05 PM, P. Larry Nelson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Weird...
> None of yours got mangled (at least in my copy of your email) but scrolling
> down I see the URL in my sig is now ProofPointed as well as my google.com
> URLs in the quoted part of your response.
> The Fermilab ProofPoint settings seem to be a bit mysterious.
>
>
> Serguei Mokhov wrote on 7/24/18 1:54 PM:
>>
>> Certainly a counterproductive decision for Fermilab and the mailing
>> list users. Not to mention privacy-violation redirecting to 3rd party
>> trackers... I'd admit with this URL mangling, I'd be more reluctant to
>> click URLs in the emails :)
>>
>> Let's see if these gets mangled:
>>
>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.google.com&d=DwICaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=ZGI1z1l3vfqoHxT9bkh2uTtKg-5zoSMkjMa7dJwVne0&s=nqcqCYyYafmVYrQM4k8j6RTbffl_OK4TwW88Tp8BUsY&e=
>>
>> "https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.google.com&d=DwICaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=ZGI1z1l3vfqoHxT9bkh2uTtKg-5zoSMkjMa7dJwVne0&s=nqcqCYyYafmVYrQM4k8j6RTbffl_OK4TwW88Tp8BUsY&e="
>> google.com
>> cnn.com
>> cbc.ca
>> "github.com"
>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__localhost&d=DwICaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=ZGI1z1l3vfqoHxT9bkh2uTtKg-5zoSMkjMa7dJwVne0&s=INI4G8jasFk0qatIiVrK7ndowa48nV-He-K2gNoIkII&e=
>>
>>
>> and URLs in sig...
>>
>> -s
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 2:45 PM, P. Larry Nelson <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hmmm, my copy sure doesn't look like HTML format.
>>> I surrender....
>>>
>>> P. Larry Nelson wrote on 7/24/18 1:44 PM:
>>>>
>>>> Same test only now I've composed in HTML format.
>>>> Same URL:
>>>>
>>>> (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.google.com_&d=DwIDaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=EYDBVOo8z2PATbw_pAw6GKNYkFSqZ79zzdFhPDE8sko&s=36AasAKnjw3JX0UK8z2_eOOgWRhxPGfavvUN_pCuhXY&e=)
>>>>
>>>> P. Larry Nelson wrote on 7/24/18 1:40 PM:
>>>>>
>>>>> I concur with the previous posts about ProofPoint.
>>>>> The U of I campus implemented this several years ago.
>>>>> I complained.  Fell on deaf ears.
>>>>>
>>>>> Implemented by our security folks.  Rationale being that 99% of the
>>>>> campus email users (i.e., using the campus Exchange server) are either
>>>>> too
>>>>> lazy and/or too unaware of the dangers of blindly clicking on a URL in
>>>>> their
>>>>> emails.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, U of I email with a URL in the message body shows the real URL
>>>>> (in blue and underlined - unless the URL is hidden via the html "<a
>>>>> href="
>>>>> construct), but when you move the mouse pointer over the URL, (at least
>>>>> in
>>>>> Thunderbird) the bottom horizontal box of T-bird (I'm sure it has a
>>>>> more
>>>>> official name) then shows the long obfuscated urldefense URL.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, in our case, one can just copy/paste the URL in the message body to
>>>>> a
>>>>> browser and NOT go thru ProofPoint.
>>>>>
>>>>> The other aspect of the U of I's ProofPoint config is that it only
>>>>> affects email composed in HTML format, and since I generally loathe
>>>>> doing
>>>>> that unless absolutely necessary, I almost always compose in ASCII
>>>>> mode.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, I suppose this might be a test of how Fermilab has implemented
>>>>> ProofPoint as I will now include a rather well known URL here
>>>>>
>>>>> (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.google.com_&d=DwIDaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=EYDBVOo8z2PATbw_pAw6GKNYkFSqZ79zzdFhPDE8sko&s=36AasAKnjw3JX0UK8z2_eOOgWRhxPGfavvUN_pCuhXY&e=)
>>>>> and see how it arrives in your inbox.
>>>>>
>>>>> :-)
>>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> P. Larry Nelson (217-693-7418) | IT Administrator Emeritus
>>> 810 Ventura Rd.                | High Energy Physics Group
>>> Champaign, IL  61820           | Physics Dept., Univ. of Ill.
>>> MailTo: [log in to unmask]   |
>>>
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__hep.physics.illinois.edu_home_lnelson_&d=DwIDaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=EYDBVOo8z2PATbw_pAw6GKNYkFSqZ79zzdFhPDE8sko&s=8P7D0JjiUCaWC6pRi-O7YHxf0ZnDitNCQLFRp9iRMbU&e=
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>   "Information without accountability is just noise."  - P.L. Nelson
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> P. Larry Nelson (217-693-7418) | IT Administrator Emeritus
> 810 Ventura Rd.                | High Energy Physics Group
> Champaign, IL  61820           | Physics Dept., Univ. of Ill.
> MailTo: [log in to unmask]   |
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__hep.physics.illinois.edu_home_lnelson_&d=DwICaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=ZGI1z1l3vfqoHxT9bkh2uTtKg-5zoSMkjMa7dJwVne0&s=l7l1lrZgSpAr0K8iyL7LTCTt6o9OZXT_q7VJXbA1C7w&e=
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  "Information without accountability is just noise."  - P.L. Nelson
>



-- 
Serguei Mokhov
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.concordia.ca_-7Emokhov&d=DwIFaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=sWBULq8K3dWbY-QrDH9R6TzVksNPFK6cpDej7AL_m20&s=w1WscM6LiyUYdmA8HmdAcGlmViY5tAZvsAHL4270294&e=
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