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"P. Larry Nelson" <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 24 Jul 2018 14:05:50 -0500
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Weird...
None of yours got mangled (at least in my copy of your email) but scrolling down 
I see the URL in my sig is now ProofPointed as well as my google.com URLs in the 
quoted part of your response.
The Fermilab ProofPoint settings seem to be a bit mysterious.


Serguei Mokhov wrote on 7/24/18 1:54 PM:
> Certainly a counterproductive decision for Fermilab and the mailing
> list users. Not to mention privacy-violation redirecting to 3rd party
> trackers... I'd admit with this URL mangling, I'd be more reluctant to
> click URLs in the emails :)
>
> Let's see if these gets mangled:
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.google.com&d=DwICaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=ZGI1z1l3vfqoHxT9bkh2uTtKg-5zoSMkjMa7dJwVne0&s=nqcqCYyYafmVYrQM4k8j6RTbffl_OK4TwW88Tp8BUsY&e=
> "https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.google.com&d=DwICaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=ZGI1z1l3vfqoHxT9bkh2uTtKg-5zoSMkjMa7dJwVne0&s=nqcqCYyYafmVYrQM4k8j6RTbffl_OK4TwW88Tp8BUsY&e="
> google.com
> cnn.com
> cbc.ca
> "github.com"
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__localhost&d=DwICaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=ZGI1z1l3vfqoHxT9bkh2uTtKg-5zoSMkjMa7dJwVne0&s=INI4G8jasFk0qatIiVrK7ndowa48nV-He-K2gNoIkII&e=
>
> and URLs in sig...
>
> -s
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 2:45 PM, P. Larry Nelson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> Hmmm, my copy sure doesn't look like HTML format.
>> I surrender....
>>
>> P. Larry Nelson wrote on 7/24/18 1:44 PM:
>>> Same test only now I've composed in HTML format.
>>> Same URL:
>>> (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.google.com_&d=DwIDaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=EYDBVOo8z2PATbw_pAw6GKNYkFSqZ79zzdFhPDE8sko&s=36AasAKnjw3JX0UK8z2_eOOgWRhxPGfavvUN_pCuhXY&e=)
>>>
>>> P. Larry Nelson wrote on 7/24/18 1:40 PM:
>>>> I concur with the previous posts about ProofPoint.
>>>> The U of I campus implemented this several years ago.
>>>> I complained.  Fell on deaf ears.
>>>>
>>>> Implemented by our security folks.  Rationale being that 99% of the
>>>> campus email users (i.e., using the campus Exchange server) are either too
>>>> lazy and/or too unaware of the dangers of blindly clicking on a URL in their
>>>> emails.
>>>>
>>>> However, U of I email with a URL in the message body shows the real URL
>>>> (in blue and underlined - unless the URL is hidden via the html "<a href="
>>>> construct), but when you move the mouse pointer over the URL, (at least in
>>>> Thunderbird) the bottom horizontal box of T-bird (I'm sure it has a more
>>>> official name) then shows the long obfuscated urldefense URL.
>>>>
>>>> So, in our case, one can just copy/paste the URL in the message body to a
>>>> browser and NOT go thru ProofPoint.
>>>>
>>>> The other aspect of the U of I's ProofPoint config is that it only
>>>> affects email composed in HTML format, and since I generally loathe doing
>>>> that unless absolutely necessary, I almost always compose in ASCII mode.
>>>>
>>>> So, I suppose this might be a test of how Fermilab has implemented
>>>> ProofPoint as I will now include a rather well known URL here
>>>> (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.google.com_&d=DwIDaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=EYDBVOo8z2PATbw_pAw6GKNYkFSqZ79zzdFhPDE8sko&s=36AasAKnjw3JX0UK8z2_eOOgWRhxPGfavvUN_pCuhXY&e=)
>>>> and see how it arrives in your inbox.
>>>>
>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>
>> --
>> P. Larry Nelson (217-693-7418) | IT Administrator Emeritus
>> 810 Ventura Rd.                | High Energy Physics Group
>> Champaign, IL  61820           | Physics Dept., Univ. of Ill.
>> MailTo: [log in to unmask]   |
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__hep.physics.illinois.edu_home_lnelson_&d=DwIDaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=EYDBVOo8z2PATbw_pAw6GKNYkFSqZ79zzdFhPDE8sko&s=8P7D0JjiUCaWC6pRi-O7YHxf0ZnDitNCQLFRp9iRMbU&e=
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>   "Information without accountability is just noise."  - P.L. Nelson
>>
>
>


-- 
P. Larry Nelson (217-693-7418) | IT Administrator Emeritus
810 Ventura Rd.                | High Energy Physics Group
Champaign, IL  61820           | Physics Dept., Univ. of Ill.
MailTo: [log in to unmask]   | https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__hep.physics.illinois.edu_home_lnelson_&d=DwICaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=ZGI1z1l3vfqoHxT9bkh2uTtKg-5zoSMkjMa7dJwVne0&s=l7l1lrZgSpAr0K8iyL7LTCTt6o9OZXT_q7VJXbA1C7w&e=
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