Weird... None of yours got mangled (at least in my copy of your email) but scrolling down I see the URL in my sig is now ProofPointed as well as my google.com URLs in the quoted part of your response. The Fermilab ProofPoint settings seem to be a bit mysterious. Serguei Mokhov wrote on 7/24/18 1:54 PM: > Certainly a counterproductive decision for Fermilab and the mailing > list users. Not to mention privacy-violation redirecting to 3rd party > trackers... I'd admit with this URL mangling, I'd be more reluctant to > click URLs in the emails :) > > Let's see if these gets mangled: > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.google.com&d=DwICaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=ZGI1z1l3vfqoHxT9bkh2uTtKg-5zoSMkjMa7dJwVne0&s=nqcqCYyYafmVYrQM4k8j6RTbffl_OK4TwW88Tp8BUsY&e= > "https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.google.com&d=DwICaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=ZGI1z1l3vfqoHxT9bkh2uTtKg-5zoSMkjMa7dJwVne0&s=nqcqCYyYafmVYrQM4k8j6RTbffl_OK4TwW88Tp8BUsY&e=" > google.com > cnn.com > cbc.ca > "github.com" > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__localhost&d=DwICaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=ZGI1z1l3vfqoHxT9bkh2uTtKg-5zoSMkjMa7dJwVne0&s=INI4G8jasFk0qatIiVrK7ndowa48nV-He-K2gNoIkII&e= > > and URLs in sig... > > -s > > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 2:45 PM, P. Larry Nelson <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> Hmmm, my copy sure doesn't look like HTML format. >> I surrender.... >> >> P. Larry Nelson wrote on 7/24/18 1:44 PM: >>> Same test only now I've composed in HTML format. >>> Same URL: >>> (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.google.com_&d=DwIDaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=EYDBVOo8z2PATbw_pAw6GKNYkFSqZ79zzdFhPDE8sko&s=36AasAKnjw3JX0UK8z2_eOOgWRhxPGfavvUN_pCuhXY&e=) >>> >>> P. Larry Nelson wrote on 7/24/18 1:40 PM: >>>> I concur with the previous posts about ProofPoint. >>>> The U of I campus implemented this several years ago. >>>> I complained. Fell on deaf ears. >>>> >>>> Implemented by our security folks. Rationale being that 99% of the >>>> campus email users (i.e., using the campus Exchange server) are either too >>>> lazy and/or too unaware of the dangers of blindly clicking on a URL in their >>>> emails. >>>> >>>> However, U of I email with a URL in the message body shows the real URL >>>> (in blue and underlined - unless the URL is hidden via the html "<a href=" >>>> construct), but when you move the mouse pointer over the URL, (at least in >>>> Thunderbird) the bottom horizontal box of T-bird (I'm sure it has a more >>>> official name) then shows the long obfuscated urldefense URL. >>>> >>>> So, in our case, one can just copy/paste the URL in the message body to a >>>> browser and NOT go thru ProofPoint. >>>> >>>> The other aspect of the U of I's ProofPoint config is that it only >>>> affects email composed in HTML format, and since I generally loathe doing >>>> that unless absolutely necessary, I almost always compose in ASCII mode. >>>> >>>> So, I suppose this might be a test of how Fermilab has implemented >>>> ProofPoint as I will now include a rather well known URL here >>>> (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.google.com_&d=DwIDaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=EYDBVOo8z2PATbw_pAw6GKNYkFSqZ79zzdFhPDE8sko&s=36AasAKnjw3JX0UK8z2_eOOgWRhxPGfavvUN_pCuhXY&e=) >>>> and see how it arrives in your inbox. >>>> >>>> :-) >>>> >> >> -- >> P. Larry Nelson (217-693-7418) | IT Administrator Emeritus >> 810 Ventura Rd. | High Energy Physics Group >> Champaign, IL 61820 | Physics Dept., Univ. of Ill. >> MailTo: [log in to unmask] | >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__hep.physics.illinois.edu_home_lnelson_&d=DwIDaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=EYDBVOo8z2PATbw_pAw6GKNYkFSqZ79zzdFhPDE8sko&s=8P7D0JjiUCaWC6pRi-O7YHxf0ZnDitNCQLFRp9iRMbU&e= >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> "Information without accountability is just noise." - P.L. Nelson >> > > -- P. Larry Nelson (217-693-7418) | IT Administrator Emeritus 810 Ventura Rd. | High Energy Physics Group Champaign, IL 61820 | Physics Dept., Univ. of Ill. MailTo: [log in to unmask] | https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__hep.physics.illinois.edu_home_lnelson_&d=DwICaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=ZGI1z1l3vfqoHxT9bkh2uTtKg-5zoSMkjMa7dJwVne0&s=l7l1lrZgSpAr0K8iyL7LTCTt6o9OZXT_q7VJXbA1C7w&e= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Information without accountability is just noise." - P.L. Nelson