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Serguei Mokhov <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 24 Jul 2018 14:54:13 -0400
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Certainly a counterproductive decision for Fermilab and the mailing
list users. Not to mention privacy-violation redirecting to 3rd party
trackers... I'd admit with this URL mangling, I'd be more reluctant to
click URLs in the emails :)

Let's see if these gets mangled:

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.google.com&d=DwIFaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=UpAH2qwjSm-yxXqncllWyqMys2EQksAO_aru1jg0wRg&s=N3bPkxmj6XWXuPdnXdgs7j52SQqTSen79RfajLTfVFY&e=
"https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.google.com&d=DwIFaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=UpAH2qwjSm-yxXqncllWyqMys2EQksAO_aru1jg0wRg&s=N3bPkxmj6XWXuPdnXdgs7j52SQqTSen79RfajLTfVFY&e="
google.com
cnn.com
cbc.ca
"github.com"
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__localhost&d=DwIFaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=UpAH2qwjSm-yxXqncllWyqMys2EQksAO_aru1jg0wRg&s=uU1UAXuZX-nKjbS9OG0vbhA8YAwkSQL4wGTyJqFOXaw&e=

and URLs in sig...

-s


On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 2:45 PM, P. Larry Nelson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hmmm, my copy sure doesn't look like HTML format.
> I surrender....
>
> P. Larry Nelson wrote on 7/24/18 1:44 PM:
>>
>> Same test only now I've composed in HTML format.
>> Same URL:
>> (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.google.com_&d=DwIDaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=EYDBVOo8z2PATbw_pAw6GKNYkFSqZ79zzdFhPDE8sko&s=36AasAKnjw3JX0UK8z2_eOOgWRhxPGfavvUN_pCuhXY&e=)
>>
>> P. Larry Nelson wrote on 7/24/18 1:40 PM:
>>>
>>> I concur with the previous posts about ProofPoint.
>>> The U of I campus implemented this several years ago.
>>> I complained.  Fell on deaf ears.
>>>
>>> Implemented by our security folks.  Rationale being that 99% of the
>>> campus email users (i.e., using the campus Exchange server) are either too
>>> lazy and/or too unaware of the dangers of blindly clicking on a URL in their
>>> emails.
>>>
>>> However, U of I email with a URL in the message body shows the real URL
>>> (in blue and underlined - unless the URL is hidden via the html "<a href="
>>> construct), but when you move the mouse pointer over the URL, (at least in
>>> Thunderbird) the bottom horizontal box of T-bird (I'm sure it has a more
>>> official name) then shows the long obfuscated urldefense URL.
>>>
>>> So, in our case, one can just copy/paste the URL in the message body to a
>>> browser and NOT go thru ProofPoint.
>>>
>>> The other aspect of the U of I's ProofPoint config is that it only
>>> affects email composed in HTML format, and since I generally loathe doing
>>> that unless absolutely necessary, I almost always compose in ASCII mode.
>>>
>>> So, I suppose this might be a test of how Fermilab has implemented
>>> ProofPoint as I will now include a rather well known URL here
>>> (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.google.com_&d=DwIDaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=EYDBVOo8z2PATbw_pAw6GKNYkFSqZ79zzdFhPDE8sko&s=36AasAKnjw3JX0UK8z2_eOOgWRhxPGfavvUN_pCuhXY&e=)
>>> and see how it arrives in your inbox.
>>>
>>> :-)
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> P. Larry Nelson (217-693-7418) | IT Administrator Emeritus
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> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__hep.physics.illinois.edu_home_lnelson_&d=DwIDaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=EYDBVOo8z2PATbw_pAw6GKNYkFSqZ79zzdFhPDE8sko&s=8P7D0JjiUCaWC6pRi-O7YHxf0ZnDitNCQLFRp9iRMbU&e=
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  "Information without accountability is just noise."  - P.L. Nelson
>



-- 
Serguei Mokhov
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