Time to hang it up?

I use the clipboard all the time especially when I'm coding. Multiple terminals 
each running a copy of vim.

I notice that many young programmers also use terminals and vim (or neovim) on 
Macs. At least on videos of programming topics I'm interested in.  Do they not 
use the clipboard?

On a more philosophical note:  I recall reading the X11 was all about capability 
and not policy.  People who design software nowadays seem to be all about policy 
and not capability. This is how you should do things.  F**k you if you don't get 
it.

Very un-unix if you ask me.  The one feature I love about unix is the countless 
permutations one can use its command line utilities to solve problems. Feeds the 
creative side of me, methinks.  That's why I never got much into GUIs.

Oh well, the future belongs to the young. Maybe it is time to hang it up.



On 06/27/2017 08:05 AM, Tom H wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 8:19 AM, Andrew C Aitchison
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> On Tue, 27 Jun 2017, Tom H wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 4:38 PM, ToddAndMargo <[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have been using UNIX and Linux for over 25 years and did not
>>>> realize X11 has four clipboards. I recently discovered the Secondary
>>>> Selection keyboard.
>>>>
>>>> It really saves a bunch of time when I am programming as I don't
>>>> lose my cursor's hot spot.
>>>>
>>>> Here is a great 8 minute video demonstrating all four clipboards. It
>>>> is must learn for anyone using Linux.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~chl/Secondary-Selection.mp4
>>>>
>>>> To support this clipboard, your program has to use the GTK Toolkit.
>>>
>>> Thanks. I didn't know about this secondary clipboard. I've just tried
>>> it on my laptop running Ubuntu 17.10 but it didn't work. I suspect
>>> that it's been deep-sixed in Gnome Shell and Unity.
>>
>> I was interested in the secondary clipboard too, and looked at
>> http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~chl/secondary-selection.html which makes
>> clear that this is not a standard gtk feature; there are experimental
>> modified gtk3 libraries which support secondary selection (no source
>> yet).
>>
>> gtk3 means it doesn't run on SL6, so I haven't been able to explore further.
> 
> The author of "Secondary-Selection.mp4" asked about it on the gtk
> development list
> 
> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2016-August/msg00036.html
> 
> and the answer was
> 
> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2016-August/msg00037.html
> 
> Part of the response:
> 
> We still (optionally) support the PRIMARY selection on the X11 backend,
> and some compatibility layer for it on Wayland, but we have no plans on
> adding support for the SECONDARY selection, as it's both barely
> specified and, like the PRIMARY, highly confusing for anybody who is not
> well-versed in 20+ years of use of textual interfaces on the X Windows
> System. Personally, I would have jettisoned the PRIMARY selection a long
> time ago as well, but apparently a very vocal minority is still holding
> tight to that particular Easter egg. Adding support for the even more
> esoteric SECONDARY selection on the X11 backend when we're trying to
> move the Linux world towards the more modern and less legacy-ridden
> Wayland display system would be problematic to say the least, and an ill
> fit for the majority of graphical user experiences in use these days.
>