On 2016-01-26 22:52, Yasha Karant wrote:
> On 01/26/2016 09:41 PM, jdow wrote:
>> On 2016-01-26 05:17, Tom H wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 10:12 AM, David Sommerseth
>>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> On 26/01/16 08:13, Yasha Karant wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> As neither VMware player nor VirtualBox seem capable of providing a MS
>>>>> Win guest with any form of Internet access to an 802.11 connection from
>>>>> the host (in both cases, the claim from a MS Win 7 Pro guest is that
>>>>> there is no networking hardware, despite being shown by the guest as
>>>>> existing), it is possible that the "native" (ships with) vm
>>>>> functionality of EL 7 may address this issue.
>>>>
>>>> So you want the guest to have full control over the wireless network
>>>> adapter?  That is possible, but only through a hypervisor ... and these
>>>> days, unless the adapter supports PCI SR-IOV [1], you need to disable
>>>> the interface (unload all drivers, unconfigure it) and allow your guest
>>>> to access the PCI interface directly (so called PCI passthrough).
>>>>
>>>> With PCI SR-IOV support (this requires hardware support), you can
>>>> actually split a physical PCI device also supporting SR-IOV into
>>>> multiple "virtual functions" (VF) which results in more PCI devices
>>>> appearing on your bare-metal host and you can then grant a VM access to
>>>> this VF based PCI device.  For network cards, that also includes a
>>>> separate MAC address per VF.
>>>>
>>>> [1] <http://blog.scottlowe.org/2009/12/02/what-is-sr-iov/>
>>>>
>>>> But the downside, from your perspective, all this requires a hypervisor.
>>>
>>> IIRC, Yasha's issue with 802.11 is that he cannot bridge a wifi NIC (I
>>> pointed out in Oct/Nov that it's because the kernel prevents it).
>>
>> Have you gone into /dev and made the appropriate permissions change on the
>> device?
>>
>> {o.o}
> Obviously, there is some point I am missing:
>
> The physical 802.11 device has an instantiated driver interface wlp61s0 on the
> machine in question.
>
> bash-4.2$ ls -a /dev/wl*
> ls: cannot access /dev/wl*: No such file or directory
> bash-4.2$ ls /dev | grep -a wl
> bash-4.2$
> bash-4.2$ locate wlp61s0
> /home/ykarant/.gkrellm2/data/net/wlp61s0
> /var/lib/NetworkManager/dhclient-568cb7e6-daa1-4768-b13e-0ac4d3d61864-wlp61s0.lease
> /var/lib/NetworkManager/dhclient-646c0914-6eff-4c67-ad42-330f130e6f8c-wlp61s0.lease
> /var/lib/NetworkManager/dhclient-6ece21f4-61c7-47a1-bc0f-85b36632da7e-wlp61s0.lease
> /var/lib/NetworkManager/dhclient-76d98a93-e645-4da2-b190-e2de2e2b9333-wlp61s0.lease
> /var/lib/NetworkManager/dhclient-8811aaa3-40a9-43f7-b1d5-7d00f3e0c4fc-wlp61s0.lease
> /var/lib/NetworkManager/dhclient-b31e96c6-392c-4c73-a6a5-8532908a0e44-wlp61s0.lease
> /var/lib/NetworkManager/dhclient-ba0ab7fc-e666-4969-86d9-7e343ea8f722-wlp61s0.lease
> /var/lib/NetworkManager/dhclient-c806cddf-1d8b-46da-a2a8-40bcf7e9956e-wlp61s0.lease
> /var/lib/NetworkManager/dhclient-ef685b95-88bf-4a0d-acea-837443a026c0-wlp61s0.lease
> /var/lib/NetworkManager/dhclient-wlp61s0.conf
>
Fascinating. I made a bad "assumption" about network devices. It seems they are 
created dynamically without any presence in /dev. So you may want to check the 
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts files for wireless devices and their permissions 
structures. (Look for files analogous to ifcfg-eth0.) Now, I have seldom used 
network mangler because historically it has blown up in my face too often. By 
now it should be better but.... You could check in network mangler to see if it 
has a permissions of one sort or another that enable it to be used by other than 
root. There is such for wired ethernet, I believe. That is where I'd look to try 
to unlock this puzzle.

Regarding virtualbox - if it's as finicky to setup as with Windows "good luck". 
Just for grins setting one up in Windows might give you an idea of information 
needed to make it work. The GUI is handy and mostly works. I don't, at this 
time, have a large enough machine dedicated to Linux for experimentation. What I 
have are all little things - mail service for 6-12 accounts with routing is 
basically what they amount to.

{^_^}   Joanne