On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 07:59:43AM -0600, Alec T. Habig wrote:
> Konstantin Olchanski writes:
> > The installer for both have the same idiotic "you *must* create a fake
> > user or no login prompt for you!",
> 
> If you're not making a local user, then you've probably got a network
> authentication scheme.
> 

Indeed. We use NIS. Support for NIS was removed in the el7 installer. Rejoyce!

>
> In which case, you're probably deploying more than one machine.  Take a
> look at making a kickstart file to automate the install process.  In
> kickstart, you don't have to make a dummy user, you can just define your
> network authentication setup.  And much, much more: then use that same
> script to install on as many machines as you want.
> 

Indeed. Have been using kickstart installs for years. CD/DVD kickstarts,
PXE-network-booted kickstarts, now mostly USB-flash-booted kickstarts.

In our environement we cannot do a one-size-fits-all kickstart,
so possibility to configure NIS during installation was quite handy.
Now it becomes a post-install step - login as root, run authconfig.

Actually now, due to this "must create, then delete fake user, which will also use a UID
colliding with our historic UID allocation scheme", non-kickstart vanilla
installer is pretty much useless.

>
> > and the same "you *must* use the disk partition tool designed by
> > dummies for dummies".
> 
> likewise solved by kickstart.
> 

The kickstart disk partitioning tool is even dumber than they new GUI tool,
only useful for "one-size-fits-all" cases where you also do not mind accidentally
deleting the contents of all disks. (yes, open the machine, disconnect disks,
install, reconnect disks, close the machine, thanks, but no thanks).

At least the el7 installer does not overwrite the bootloader of the *installer* disk
and seems to correctly install the boot loader for raid1 mirrored slash partitions.

P.S.

I keep banging about all this stuff because over the last 20 years all I see
is each new installer only reluctantly fix a few of the old bugs, but consistently
add new "features" which are not improvements.

-- 
Konstantin Olchanski
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