On 12/01/16 20:30, Mark Stodola wrote:
> Since this is becoming a top-post thread, I will continue 
> the trend.
>
> CentOS does not offer a support contract like RHEL.  Why 
> would a company compete with itself?  It is essentially a 
> community supported release of RHEL, just like SL.
>
> Of course, some one please correct me if I am wrong here...
>
> This is not a new topic, and was discussed at length when 
> RedHat announced the acquisition of CentOS and changes to 
> the build process. To my knowledge, the SL team had 
> discussions with the CentOS and RedHat people on how to 
> move forward.  The SL team decided to continue as a 
> complete separate distribution instead of become in extra 
> repository/site for the foreseeable future.
>
> One of the key features I like about SL is the ability to 
> stay on a specific point release and still receive 
> relevant updates. There are probably several other reasons 
> Connie or Pat could elaborate on as well.
>
> In the end, it is up to personal/company preference with 
> any distribution you chose to use.  That is part of what 
> open source is about.  Arguing for distribution 
> usage/mergers doesn't really do anything productive here 
> in a users' mailing list.
Of course it does.

When somebody mentions fondness towards the support SL 
offers - what does it mean? - I always thought SL support 
has always been exclusively community(users) based + 
contributing developers. Am I wrong and missing that 
somewhere there we can get some extra level of support?

Now, CERN and affiliates, associates, whatever or whoever 
decides to follow this path is going to drift a bit away, if 
not completely. There was one scientificLinux both great 
labs shared - now they are parting away in a sense. The same 
would happen with users. Opensource community, though the 
greatest in the world had always had problems coming together.

And "complete separate distribution" I think is a bit abused 
notion in case of SL. I've been a SL user for many years and 
I'm grateful for it. Even if only for the fact that one can 
get such a great product in its entirety without getting 
tied up in some commercial contracts, greedy and doggy as 
they usually are.

I don't want to argue superiority of one over the other in 
terms of point-release, updates and/or their promptness, I 
did not mean to, not much to argue there, anybody can check 
it themselves.

If it was discussed here on the list before I apologize - I 
must have rushed my search for the topic on the list, I only 
found a 2014 old topic and then CERN's news about 2015 move.

I've learned what I sought, many thanks.

>
> -Mark
>
>
> On 01/12/2016 02:10 PM, Miles O'Neal wrote:
>> Has CentOS got support yet? My employer moved to RHEL 
>> because we got
>> tired of fighting third party vendors over their support 
>> on non-RHEL
>> platforms, but I personally always found SL to be more 
>> consistent and
>> quicker to release... and they had much better support.
>>
>> On 01/12/2016 02:04 PM, lejeczek wrote:
>>> hi,
>>> after my first post I made a move, I should say a 
>>> smaller rather, I
>>> did migrate a small HA cluster from SL7.1 to Centos7.2.
>>> Instructions to do that I'm sure everybody can easily 
>>> look up, just
>>> one tiny manual intervention was needed above what is 
>>> already covered
>>> by a doc on Centos website.
>>> But most importantly nothing broke, all the usual 
>>> servers, web, mail,
>>> other net related services including HA carried on 
>>> seamlessly.
>>> Like I said earlier, and everybody knows, a lot, a lot 
>>> is already
>>> shared, differences boil down to maybe a philosophy 
>>> behind each
>>> organization responsible for each snip-off, some 
>>> organizational and
>>> administrative processes, protocols.
>>> Slight advantage seems that Centos offers, but expected 
>>> as they are
>>> closer to the source in the lifecycle supply chain, is 
>>> higher revision
>>> of some rpm packages, I see I get slightly newer kernel 
>>> for example, etc.
>>>
>>> If I was to voice my opinion out - and scientific devel 
>>> & other
>>> responsible culprits are listening - then I say: go for 
>>> it, get
>>> together, merge userbase, share devel jobs, duties, etc. 
>>> Merge/share
>>> or even better, tell Redhat we want to use their, shared 
>>> by all, bug
>>> reporting system.
>>>
>>> I've decided, I'll be moving over to Centos, gradually 
>>> but surely.
>>> Note, one thing to remember if you did SL -> Centos, 
>>> afterwards, is
>>> yum repos, make sure what you have enabled there.
>>>
>>> cheers
>>>
>>> On 12/01/16 09:48, lejeczek wrote:
>>>> hi everybody,
>>>>
>>>> I've wondered and got curious, what do you guys, gals 
>>>> think about
>>>> that move?
>>>> More importantly do you think it's a step we SL users 
>>>> should also
>>>> consider?
>>>> CERN mention there were talks between them, Fermilab - 
>>>> what are
>>>> Fermilab plans with regards to future releases, with 
>>>> regards to SL in
>>>> general? (Not much info on the website.)
>>>> I personally am just about to trial a migration from 
>>>> SL7 to Centos.
>>>> I'm thinking it's inevitable, am I wrong?
>>>>
>>>> best wishes.
>>>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Miles O'Neal
>> CAD Systems Engineer
>> Cirrus Logic | cirrus.com | 1.512.851.4659
>