On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Larry Linder
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> More on installation of 7.1.
>
> We decided to not deploy SL 7.1
>
> Down loaded the nice serial manual from RH site. Well written, and everything
> works as stated. There still does not seem to be a way to get a simple
> Ethernet connection.
> Error message is "NO Connection" We started out with a working box running SL
> 5.11.
>
> Since all of our users gave it a thumbs down and did not do not want this OS -
> the vote was unanimous.
>
> The Ethernet install failure was the a show stopper.
>
> Installations we tried were the "standard", "automatic etc.
> Last night was the 16Th time we tried to install it and make some sense of it.
> So far we have tried about every thing and finally let it do a standard
> install on the OS disk. It didn't improve anything.
> Made you think of Windows 7 - Bill computer on this time its big Red's
> computer.
>
> 1. When looking at the / there were two partitioned /boot, /home & / and
> that was it. If you do a "df" -n on look at the installed stuff it is just
> a bunch a numbers and no clue as to what they all did.
> No /var, /opt, /tmp and others we use on other disks were no where to be
> found. Just a series of characters - no meaning.
Have you tried an installation without touching the disk partitioning
at all? And why would you think that /var, /opt, and /tmp should be
separate unless you specifically request them? While those can be
optionally activated partitiions, they're not set so by *default*.
NetworkManager has gotten weird. The common approcach you're
encountering, probably becuase you installed form a DVD image or USB
stick, is that whatever network devices you have will be activaed and
configured by the user later.
> 2. We tried to load a couple of apps we use some are home grown, some are
> purchased, cad packages did not want to install. We ordered VMWare so we
> could install some variants of Windows for special stuff and use our file
> system layout. Down loaded it on another system but have not installed it
> due to Ethernet problem.
>
> 3. We decided to just reload 5.11 hook up other disks and forget till SL 8.1
> comes out sometime. We could not install a previous OS . It seams that SL
> 7.1 has written something on the Track 00 of disk that it was installed on we
> cannot see it but it prevents you from backing to a prior OS version.
> Once you install 7.1 you have been Intercourrsed.
Soundss like the old LVM problem, which exists for other releases.
Prying free undesired disk partition to do a clean install is easy on
a VM, just use new disk images. On real hardware, it can be more
cantankerous and involving doing something like 'dd if=/dev/zeo
of=/dev/sda' or similar command on current disks, before you reboot
the box, or using something like the 'dban' disk scrubbing tools,
which do a very thorough job but take one hell of a lot longer.
> 4. We need a way to gracefully remove SL 7.1 if we can't then we will have to
> do a low level format on disk.
> One of the guys suggested that we take the disk out and put it on fence post
> in south forty and he would loan me his twelve Gage. Just because a low
> level format takes so much time.
See above. Clearing the disk labels and partitions should help, and
it's much faster.
> 5. We have invested about 16 hours on various installs at the shop rate and
> that is a lot of money spent for a Zero gain.
> Dan remarked that it is so secure that even as root you could do nothing.
> Reminded him of a 10 Ton Steel safe full of trash at 15 K ft. below the
> surface, secure but effectively worthless.
Dan's so funny that, if he worked with me, I'd be looking to fire him
for making funnies instead of learning how things work.
> 6. One of the major birches is how do you tun off the goofy sound when you
> manually step back too far. Can you imagine 50 of these noises going off at
> the same time. This is below first grade stuff and needs to be removed.
> The last thing you need in a machine shop is a surprise when some one is
> running a mill, lathe, power sheer, drill press.
Sound on SL 7 is your own issue. Can't you turn it off in the BIOS, if
it's considered that dangerous?
> I need a way to uninstall 7.1 from our test system. One way that was
> suggested was to load Windows 7. Ouch.
See above. If you stop with the snarking and thinking it's cute on a
technical list, you'll get much better answers. And if you want
professional grade support to help with every problem you run into
with local practices, you might have to pay someone.
> We have been using Unix since 79 on a PDP8, a Convex super computer, Sun Super
> Server a 16 processor Server, and for the last 10 years We have been using
> SL Starting with SL 4.1 Linux. Tried to use Susi, Slackware & others that
> were around. and all had major deficiencies.
> So here we are with SL5.11 and some boxes @ SL 6.4. They all work together
> and the network was easy and the video was excellent.
For reference, Minix, 1981.
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