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"James M. Pulver" <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 3 Sep 2014 19:03:18 +0000
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But you're always going to see things like this when a company is involved in creating the product. I think if you want full open-source support for respins (not license compliance - everyone should comply with licenses - but real support and making it easy), you have to start with a non - company distro. Probably Debian Stable or the like...

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James Pulver
CLASSE Computer Group
Cornell University


-----Original Message-----
From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dag Wieers
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 2:57 PM
To: R P Herrold
Cc: Nico Kadel-Garcia; [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Questions about SL 7.0

On Wed, 3 Sep 2014, R P Herrold wrote:

> On Wed, 3 Sep 2014, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
>
>> It's quite galling: the current semi-manual re-assembly of local 
>> branches, based on "git log" entries, is winding up lauded as 
>> sufficient and superior because, frankly, it's the only thing that's 
>> currently supported.
>
> Nico
>
> I get it -- you are unhappy about unsigned SRPMS.  I am located in the 
> US and so readily subject of the reach the upstream as a target for 
> litigation on perceived EULA / terms of use / etc violations.  I won't 
> be exposing such a tool publicly, but then ...
>
> If you (seemingly offshore from the upstream) really cannot afford the 
> funds for a subscription, and will do the coding of a mrepo / 
> satellite / whatever proxy to retrieve the signed sources, please ... 
> pass the hat, buy a subscription, and just sit down and write the 
> code.  It would seem (but you should satisfy yourself) that your 
> downside risk is that they will turn off such a subscription
>
> But is is not productive (for you) to carp over and over without 
> taking steps to address your concern, nor (for others) reading mailing 
> lists to wade through 're-runs' of your concern

So the solution is anonymous donations of signed SRPMS in an automated fashion ? Has Open Source come to this ? And to what end ?

Nico has a good point, and the only course of action is to make this absurd situation clear to the public. The only other two options are: 
paying and voiding you Red Hat contract or trusting Centos/infra/tooling.

If all this is done only to make RHEL and CentOS more compelling offerings (than Oracle Linux, Scientific Linux, ...), it does leave a bad taste :-/

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Dag

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