On 06/13/2012 06:44 AM, Konstantin Olchanski wrote:

> (On this list, are we really required to say "TUV" instead of "***censored***",
> as if we were playing a 1984 double-speak live action game?)

Yes, because lawyers have made even casual conversation a legal 
minefield for reasons other than getting disappeared by the Thought Police.

Pretty much anything trademarked, burdened by customer guarantees of any 
sort, or otherwise encumbered in any way should be referred to obliquely 
on this list. This sounds silly, I know, but the reason is that the labs 
who support this project don't have the bandwidth or the desire to even 
open a conversation about how to open a proper, legal, trade protections 
unencumbered conversation, and to that end terms like "TUV" are used 
around here.

Not that TUV is a bad player -- *far* from it -- but why even open the 
door in case the wind starts blowing the other way?