On 07/11/2011 03:20 PM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote:
> Brad wrote:
>> On 07/11/2011 01:33 PM, Connie Sieh wrote:
>>> On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Brunner, Brian T. wrote:
>>>
>>>> [log in to unmask] wrote:
>>>>> I can't install SL 6.0 off the live CD or the
>>>>> install DVD because it requires a pae kernel and the laptop does
>>>>> not have a pae cpu.=20
>>>>
>>>> I do hope this horrid "pae required" decision is circumvented for
>>>> SL/CentOS users.
>>>
>>> I know that SL does not circumvent this. I suspect CentOS does not
>>> either.
>>
>> Well I just tried SL6, CentOS 6, and RHEL 6 and every one of has the
>> same pae kernel in them. I guess I will just have to stick
>> with Fedora 14 on that laptop.
>>
>> Ever since I have been plying with Linux I don't remember
>> have a Live CD or an install CD/DVD wanting a specific kernel, the
> install
>> would find the pae or not in the cpu and install the correct kernel.
> Is
>> this some thing Red Hat is doing because of the dual core and above
> cpu's now
>> days, or is it some conspiracy theory trying to make us all give or
>> throw our old PC away and buy new ones.
>>
>
> Leaving non-PAE-processor-wedded efforts to shrug and do without
> RHEL/SL/CentOS?
> Not because we want to, nor because there's something better...
> On a family vacation potty-stop (RHEL 5->6) everybody got out of the
> car, but the non-PAE kids weren't let back in. The family car drove
> off, and we're left to our own devices.
>
> *sigh*
>
> Suggestion 1: publish a kernel based on the sources, with PAE disabled.
> Suggestion 2: Publish the kernel sources so "yum install
> full-kernel-source" will enable me to do the same.
> Suggesting I can do it all myself equates to saying I can grab my
> skate-board and the bumper and stay with the family.
>
> The world is more than i686/PAE/multi-core.
> RHEL's decision declares that they're uninterested in the low-power
> embedded market (where most computers are).
> I have 1 i686/PAE/MultiCore desktop gaming machine at home.
> I also have a microwave, refrigerator, freezer, 2 clocks, a boom-box, a
> router, a modem, a keyboard/synthesizer, and (soon) security devices,
> *all* of which are (or will soon be upgraded to) embedded-controlled
> devices. I see computer-controlled door knobs in hotels, cars, business
> offices, and expect (soon) to see them on houses. 90% or more computers
> are embedded, headless, smaller than i686, and non-PAE.
>
> There are, also, the non-PAE, non-i686 machines I code on for a living.
>
> Do you (RHEL/CentOS, *and* SL) suggest I just go elsewhere?
>
I am a firm believer that a person should use the Linux distribution
that is right for them.
SL does not support ARM, PPC, Itanium or non-i686 machines.
RHEL6/CentOS6/SL6 does not support non-PAE processors, natively.
If you have to program on those other processors, then it sounds like SL
(and I dare say RHEL) is not the correct distribution for you.
Troy
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