Brad wrote:
> On 07/11/2011 01:33 PM, Connie Sieh wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Brunner, Brian T. wrote:
>> 
>>> [log in to unmask] wrote:
>>>> I can't install SL 6.0 off the live CD or the
>>>> install DVD because it requires a pae kernel and the laptop does
>>>> not have a pae cpu.=20
>>> 
>>> I do hope this horrid "pae required" decision is circumvented for
>>> SL/CentOS users.
>> 
>> I know that SL does not circumvent this.  I suspect CentOS does not
>> either. 
>
> Well I just tried SL6, CentOS 6, and RHEL 6 and every one of has the
> same pae kernel in them. I guess I will just have to stick
> with Fedora 14 on that laptop.
> 
> Ever since I have been plying with Linux I don't remember
> have a Live CD or an install CD/DVD wanting a specific kernel, the
install
> would find the pae or not in the cpu and install the correct kernel.
Is
> this some thing Red Hat is doing because of the dual core and above
cpu's now
> days, or is it some conspiracy theory trying to make us all give or
> throw our old PC away and buy new ones.
> 

Leaving non-PAE-processor-wedded efforts to shrug and do without
RHEL/SL/CentOS?
Not because we want to, nor because there's something better...
On a family vacation potty-stop (RHEL 5->6) everybody got out of the
car, but the non-PAE kids weren't let back in.  The family car drove
off, and we're left to our own devices.

*sigh*

Suggestion 1: publish a kernel based on the sources, with PAE disabled.
Suggestion 2: Publish the kernel sources so "yum install
full-kernel-source" will enable me to do the same.
Suggesting I can do it all myself equates to saying I can grab my
skate-board and the bumper and stay with the family.

The world is more than i686/PAE/multi-core.
RHEL's decision declares that they're uninterested in the low-power
embedded market (where most computers are).
I have 1 i686/PAE/MultiCore desktop gaming machine at home.
I also have a microwave, refrigerator, freezer, 2 clocks, a boom-box, a
router, a modem, a keyboard/synthesizer, and (soon) security devices,
*all* of which are (or will soon be upgraded to) embedded-controlled
devices. I see computer-controlled door knobs in hotels, cars, business
offices, and expect (soon) to see them on houses.  90% or more computers
are embedded, headless, smaller than i686, and non-PAE.

There are, also, the non-PAE, non-i686 machines I code on for a living.

Do you (RHEL/CentOS, *and* SL) suggest I just go elsewhere?


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