Stephan Wiesand wrote:
> Hi Troy,
> 
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008, Troy Dawson wrote:
> 
>> Hi All,
>> We will once again be having a Plenary (a discussion/forum) at Hepix.  I am
>> gathering a list of things people want to discuss.
>>
>> What do people want to discuss?
> 
> you should probably take the silence as an indication that SL is working
> very well as it is, and hence there isn't all that much to discuss.
> 
> In fact, the only topic coming to my mind is the roadmap:
> 
> SL4 EOL: Given that both the Grid middleware and the LHC experiment
> software are barely ready for SL4 now, we'll probably have to run SL4
> systems for years to come. I'm not happy about this, but I can't help it.
> I heard rumours that FNAL will completely switch to SL5 this year and
> drop SL4 support. Is this true?
> 
> SL6: TUVEL6 seems unlikely before 2009 (right?), so this is not really a
> hot topic yet, but I wonder whether there'll be an SL6 or SL will just
> become an add-on repository for CentOS6 at this point (as proposed
> already for SL5 by Jarek)?
> 
> Cheers,
>         Stephan
> 
> 
> PS When will you arrive? Anyone in for a pre-HEPiX SL meeting in
>     restaurant 1 on Saturday or Sunday?
> 
> 

I had 4 thinks listed so far ... and you said two of them ..

  - SL4 lifetime
We need a firm date

  - XFS in the main SL
I had some requests for this.  Do people feel it's ready now to go into the 
main release?

  - SL6
Should we use the common CentOS rpm's?  These are the the non-changed rpm's.
We feel we should still do the installer changes and add the extra packages we 
already do.  But using CentOS as our starting point.

  - Ubuntu creep -
How many labs are seeing this?
Do they see this as a problem?
Do they see this as a problem 3 or 4 years from now when users are still 
running Ubuntu 7.0.4?


On a non-plenary subject.

About Fermi switching to SL5.  There is no central "Fermi" release.  We have, 
and will continue to have SLF3, SLF4, SLF5.  We do *not* tell our users which 
version they should run, and we have a wide scattering of everything.
The experiments at Fermilab that are working with DESY might be moving to SL5, 
or SLF5, but that does not constitute the whole lab by any means.
If you are curious about what versions of SL and SLF are being run at the lab, 
you can look at the Fermi Linux metrics pages
https://fermilinux.fnal.gov/documentation/metrics
I think the easiest one to read is the 2008 major release page
https://fermilinux.fnal.gov/documentation/metrics/2008/major/
And look at the Onsite section

Troy
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