Now I engage my brain I see the "problem" is with Java 1.4.2 and the DLJ 
only started from "Java 5".

Alex Owen

On Mon, 3 Dec 2007, Alex Owen wrote:

> Does the "Operating System Distributor License for Java" (DLJ)
>  http://dlc.sun.com/dlj/DLJ-FAQ.html
> not allow the CERN rpm's to be distributed???
>
> Alex Owen
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> On Wed, 28 Nov 2007, Troy Dawson wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>> We have a bit of a problem with java on SL4, and I believe most of you know 
>> at least part of it.
>> Our java rpm's come straight from Sun with no changes.  Even signing them 
>> causes problems with the rpm.
>> The 1.4.2 rpm that comes from sun, for some unkown reason, says that it 
>> obsoletes jdk.  This means that when you update the j2sdk, it deletes any 
>> jdk rpms an admin might have added even if it's newer.  So if I send out an 
>> update to the current j2sdk for 1.4.2, it will delete the 1.5.0 java and/or 
>> the 1.6.0 java.
>> 
>> But I'm really hating not getting the security updates out for this java.
>> 
>> I see three options.
>> 1 - We just push it out as it is, and say "sorry" to everyone this hurts. 
>> (That's what we did last time ... and trust me, that's alot of "sorry" I 
>> had to  say)
>> 2 - We rebuild the j2sdk rpm, leaving out the obsolete line.
>> 3 - We drop j2sdk and change our supported java to be version 1.5 and 
>> above.
>> 
>> I am leaving heavily towards option 3.  Just move everything up to java 1.5 
>> or above.
>> 
>> But the question is, how much is that going to hurt people and/or 
>> experiments?
>> 
>> I *think* that moving to jave 1.5 isn't going to affect programs running 
>> 1.4.2, but I don't know.
>> 
>> Also, why stop at 1.5, what if we just did the latest 1.6, and maybe say 
>> we're always going to stay at the latest stable release for java.
>> 
>> I need some second opinions.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Troy
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